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cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 01:03 PM Oct 2012

Radical Religion – Common Threads of the Lunatic Fringe

“But it is dominion we are after, not just a voice. It is dominion we are after, not just influence. It is dominion we are after, not just equal time. It is dominion we are after. World conquest.” – Thomas Ice



I get a lot of email from fundamentalist Christians who chide me for having “the audacity” to compare their brand of Christianity with radical Islam. I have visions of pots and kettles, as these particular Christians, like their radical Muslim counterparts, also believe that everyone who does not hold to their brand of the faith are as equally doomed to hell along with everyone else. This is a belief that most mainstream Christians and many Muslims do not adhere to. Trust me, I’ve been to plenty of interdenominational events in my past, and Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, etc. all pretty much play well together. I’ve been to Islamic community centers and have seen all sorts of people hanging out, not killing each other, as well.

However, when you compare radical Islam and Christian extremist doctrine, the commonalities between the two faiths are very apparent. The problem starts with their use of the Bible and the Koran as venues for the expression of their hate, bigotry and intolerance. Particularly the factions who cherry-pick the parts of their holy books that promote the murder of homosexuals, unbelievers, adulterers, fornicators, disobedient children and members of other religions – and perceive those words to be very literal and entirely relevant to contemporary society. There is no getting around the fact that the Bible and Koran have much in common when it comes to “death” commandments.

Infidels, Injustice and Ignorance…

Radical Islam and Fundamental Christianity are responsible for unspeakably horrific acts toward infidels, as well as their own members, past and present. One simply cannot look past all the evil that these two religions have perpetrated on humankind. Sure, there are good deeds being done in the name of these religions, but the ends do not justify the means, especially when you consider the proven ability of unbelievers to be altruistic and charitable. When you take away the comparatively little good from all the horrible things that have been done by the extremists in the name of the Christian and Islamic gods, it becomes quite apparent that there is little use in the world for either of these forms of the religions.

Members of the lunatic fringe of these two faiths are narcissistic, psychotic sociopaths. That’s a dangerous combination and the threat of both the physical and intellectual destruction of our species remains imminent. Where radical Islam is concerned, the threat to our species is physical. The access to weapons of mass destruction, including those of the biological and chemical variety, is relatively easy. The willingness of these radicals to use them has already been demonstrated. Where fundamental Christianity is concerned, the threat to our society is mainly on the intellectual level.

If you think intellectual terrorism is a joke, consider the continuing efforts of the Christian fundamentalists in the United States to rewrite history, to replace real science with creationism in the classroom, and to transform the entire nation into a Christian Theocracy. Secular civil rights organizations are fighting a seemingly never-ending battle to defend the First Amendment from its abrogation by literally thousands of politicians and educators in all levels of government and academia who insist on injecting their religion into their respective venues.

http://www.goddiscussion.com/103096/radical-religion-common-threads-of-the-lunatic-fring/



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rug

(82,333 posts)
1. The similarity can be drawn as well to extreme political movements, or any ideology for that matter.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 02:18 PM
Oct 2012

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
2. True, but what separates extreme religion from other extremes, is the deference religion gets.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 02:26 PM
Oct 2012

And that is what makes is so dangerous, IMO.

 

LARED

(11,735 posts)
6. So how do you figure out when a religious view is extreme and gets
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 08:44 PM
Oct 2012

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deferential treatment?

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
3. The real danger is the adulation of ignorance and irresponsible reproduction.
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 05:21 PM
Oct 2012

Because that just can't go on indefinitely, religious freedom for all will have to be curtailed. These people are your enemies, you reasonable religious folks.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
5. I observe this phenomenon on the international scene, particularly in China, and
Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:50 PM
Oct 2012

am appalled that they are driven to such measures by the collective unwisdom of their citizens. I observe the contrasting situation in India, where religious fanaticism defeats efforts to control population.

As usual, an enlightened atheism (or any wise humanism) is the answer. Children should be wanted by their parents, not by some distant benighted magical organization, particularly one made up mostly of men.

We don't want to go China's cruel route. Speak out against irresponsible reproduction today.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
7. When it becomes more expensive to have children people stop having so many children
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:43 PM
Oct 2012

It wasn't that long ago that children were an economic boon for most parents, free labor that could be put to work on the farm at a young age and kept in more or less slavery for ten or more years.

In modern societies children are an economic drag for most parents, taking a couple of decades or more of income and effort to prepare them for going out on their own in the world.

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