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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 06:15 AM Jan 2013

January 16, 1786 – Virginia enacted the Statute for Religious Freedom authored by Thomas Jefferson.

An Act for establishing religious Freedom.

Whereas, Almighty God hath created the mind free;

That all attempts to influence it by temporal punishments or burthens, or by civil incapacitations tend only to beget habits of hypocrisy and meanness, and therefore are a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, who being Lord, both of body and mind yet chose not to propagate it by coercions on either, as was in his Almighty power to do,

That the impious presumption of legislators and rulers, civil as well as ecclesiastical, who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavouring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world and through all time;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Statute_for_Religious_Freedom

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January 16, 1786 – Virginia enacted the Statute for Religious Freedom authored by Thomas Jefferson. (Original Post) Sherman A1 Jan 2013 OP
Interesting that it invokes God as a basis for free thinking. rug Jan 2013 #1
Why is that interesting edhopper Jan 2013 #2
Because it was one of the earliest documents on a secular state. rug Jan 2013 #5
I agree edhopper Jan 2013 #6
What he is saying is religious freedom is not just good politics but also good religion. Fortinbras Armstrong Jan 2013 #3
In 1965, after nearly two millenia of persecuting, torturing, and/or just murdering those... trotsky Jan 2013 #4

edhopper

(33,604 posts)
2. Why is that interesting
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:43 AM
Jan 2013

given the time period and the author?

Seems trivial compared to the historical import of the document.

 

rug

(82,333 posts)
5. Because it was one of the earliest documents on a secular state.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:03 PM
Jan 2013

And I wouldn't write the language off as an anachronistic artifact.

There is nothing contradictory between theism and a secular state.

edhopper

(33,604 posts)
6. I agree
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 01:33 PM
Jan 2013

I don't find that phrase interesting because it is very typical of Jefferson.
The document is an important milestone. But Jefferson invoking God is not surprising.
I am not sure why you think that phrase has any relevance.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
3. What he is saying is religious freedom is not just good politics but also good religion.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:49 AM
Jan 2013

The Catholic Church, in the Vatican II document Dignitatis Humanae makes a similar argument for religious freedom on purely religious grounds.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
4. In 1965, after nearly two millenia of persecuting, torturing, and/or just murdering those...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 10:59 AM
Jan 2013

who disagree, your church finally and oh-so-graciously decided to let people believe what they want. Oh, and it was also 200 years after a certain country's SECULAR founding documents declared it to be a right.

Bravo! Hooray! Bully for the RCC!

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