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Related: About this forumStudy Shows Offenders Exploit Religion to Justify Criminal Activity
http://ivn.us/2013/02/28/study-shows-offenders-exploit-religion-to-justify-criminal-activityBy Kelly Petty | 02/28/2013
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Street offenders often exploit religion to justify even encourage criminal activity, a university study shows.
Titled With God on my side: The paradoxical relationship between religious belief and criminality among hardcore street offenders, the Georgia State University study shows that while many inmates have established religious ideals from childhood, those beliefs are often incomplete and selective in order to accommodate and promote the criminal lifestyle they live.
Offenders in our study overwhelmingly professed a belief in God and identified themselves with a particular religion, but they also regularly engaged in serious crimes, said Volkan Topalli, an associate professor in Georgia States Andrew Young School of Policy Studies. Our data suggest that religious belief may even produce or tend to produce crime or criminality among our sample of hardcore street offenders who actively reference religious doctrine to justify past and future offenses.
Topalli and associate professor Timothy Brezin, along with Graduate student Mindy Bernhardt, conducted interviews with forty-eight African-American hardcore offenders in the Atlanta, GA area. Hardcore offenders are identified as criminals who have committed one of four crimes including carjacking, burglary, robbery, or drug dealing.
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trotsky
(49,533 posts)Some interviewer asked him if he had a message for the families of the men who were killed in the incident he was involved in. His answer was a long convoluted mess that can be summed up as "Well God wouldn't let me have all this success if I was a bad person."
But to argue that he - or anyone - is "exploiting" religion in doing this is rather presumptuous. Who is to say they don't sincerely believe it?
Instead what this smacks of is religious bigotry. We return to the central notion so many believers cling to: that no one who is "truly" religious could do a bad thing. Ergo, only the non-religious commit crimes. Raw, ugly bigotry.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)trotsky
(49,533 posts)There are some bible verses that can be interpreted to support such a notion. Not every Christian agrees, but that's how some see it.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)trotsky
(49,533 posts)But I doubt we'll make much progress solving the problems with religion when both sides keep screaming that the other is following Satan.
Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)the Satanists admit their greed.
Nothing personal, trotsky. I don't hate Xtians, only hypocrites.
Smilo
(1,944 posts)From the perspective of the nations professional prison chaplains, Americas state penitentiaries are a bustle of religious activity. More than seven-in-ten (73%) state prison chaplains say that efforts by inmates to proselytize or convert other inmates are either very common (31%) or somewhat common (43%). About three-quarters of the chaplains say that a lot (26%) or some (51%) religious switching occurs among inmates in the prisons where they work. Many chaplains report growth from religious switching in the numbers of Muslims and Protestant Christians, in particular.
http://www.pewforum.org/government/religion-in-prisons.aspx
cbayer
(146,218 posts)programs and religious groups.
It should be noted, however, that this survey did not include questions actually put to inmates, but only chaplains. So the results have to be taken in that context.
rrneck
(17,671 posts)struggle4progress
(118,295 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)could be another problem here that is a foundation for how that works.
I don't think people are aware of their own consciousness in its (their own) dimensions, from aware, through less aware, all of the way to sub-conscious factors, like social affirmation, that produce what one "knows". Culturally, none of that "indeciveness", or cogitation, or self-reality-testing, is even allowed, or encouraged, or facilitated, or even just tolerated.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)Are you saying that the "street criminals" in this study are lacking in the ability to be self-reflective, so fall back on the dogma they know and adapt it to justify their actions?
patrice
(47,992 posts)I wish I could tell you the number of times that students who were placed in my classes would just have this surprised realization about what Psychology is. Yes, there's some tendency to oversimplify this box of tools too and get all tooooo Freudian, or something, so appropriate facilitation is necessary, but at least it is the nature of science to APPROVE of questions, in this case questions about one's behavior and mental processes, unlike conventional religion, which rewards, in a way that is profoundly rewarding for "street criminals", NOT asking questions.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)She suggests that understanding the strong ties to religion some of these offenders have will lead to a much better understanding of their underlying psychopathology. And that could lead to better interventions.
She also concludes that teaching them more about what their professed religion actually stands for would benefit them as well. They would then have to ask themselves whether they really believe what they way they believe.