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hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 02:04 PM Mar 2013

Anglican-Methodist commission issues communiqué

[Anglican Communion News Service] The final meeting of the Anglican-Methodist International Commission for Unity in Mission (AMICUM) took place Feb. 22 to March 1, in Ocho Rios, Jamaica, hosted by the Anglican Communion. Members of the Commission worshiped together morning and evening, and the Eucharist was celebrated according to both traditions.
The Commission has after five years completed the phase of work mandated to it by the World Methodist Council and the Anglican Communion, and has now prepared a report for both bodies. As the last three words in its title suggest (Unity in Mission), AMICUM aims to foster the unity of the Church so that the Church can engage more fully in God’s mission of love to the world. The report begins and ends with biblical reflections, on our Lord’s prayer for the unity of his people that all might believe, and on the radical nature of Jesus’ ministry as a mandate for mission.
AMICUM has set out key points of agreement concerning the interchangeability of ordained ministries, and the awareness of each Communion’s need of the other. It sees a common, interchangeable ministry as crucial in making the unity of the Church visible.
The report analyses the place of the apostolic tradition and the nature of the oversight (episkope) in the life of the Church. It explores the history of oversight, and the way it has been exercised in the Methodist and Anglican traditions, and the way it is exercised today.
AMICUM has closely monitored dialogues and agreements around the world, and has drawn lessons and recommendations from these which it now offers to both Communions. The report shows that each tradition has affirmed the authenticity of the other’s ministries, and encourages churches that have not yet entered into mutual agreements to do so.
A toolkit is provided for churches wanting to move into closer co-operation, giving questions for consideration to enable this process to advance.
AMICUM is recommending that the World Methodist Council and the Anglican Consultative Council establish an Anglican-Methodist International Coordinating Committee to oversee and foster relationships between Methodist and Anglican member churches.
The Report will be published during 2014.
The Commission is grateful for the warm hospitality given by the Diocese of Jamaica and the Cayman Islands, at the Parish of St John’s Ocho Rios, by the United Theological College, where the Commission worshiped, and by Bishop Howard Gregory. At this meeting AMICUM met the President of the Jamaica Methodist Church, the Rev Everard Galbraith, and the Rev Dr George Mulrain who gave a lecture on Anglican and Methodist relationships in the Caribbean and the Americas.
Present at the meeting were,
Methodists
The Rev. Professor Emeritus Robert Gribben (Uniting Church in Australia) (Co-Chair)
Dr. Elizabeth Amoah (Methodist Church, Ghana)
The Rev. Dr. Wong Tik Wah (Methodist Church in Malaysia)
The Rev. Professor Sarah Lancaster (The United Methodist Church)
The Rev. Gareth Powell (The Methodist Church) (Co-Secretary)
Anglicans
The Rt. Rev. Harold Miller (The Church of Ireland) (Co-Chair)
The Rev. Canon Professor Paul Avis (The Church of England)
The Rev. Garth Minott (The Church in the Province of the West Indies)
The Rt. Rev. Dr. P Surya Prakash (The Church of South India)
Lutheran World Federation Observer
The Rt. Rev. Walter Jagucki (Great Britain)
Staff
The Rev. Canon Dr. Alyson Barnett-Cowan (Co-Secretary) (Anglican Communion Office)
Mr. Neil Vigers (Anglican Communion Office)


http://episcopaldigitalnetwork.com/ens/2013/03/01/anglican-methodist-commission-issues-communique/

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Anglican-Methodist commission issues communiqué (Original Post) hrmjustin Mar 2013 OP
I don't know what this means. Could you explain? cbayer Mar 2013 #1
Methodists are in talks with Anglican bishops to receive Ordination from Anglican Bishops hrmjustin Mar 2013 #2
Thanks. I don't really know much about the internal politics of the cbayer Mar 2013 #3
Methodists are an offshoot of Anglicans but they were not so strict about the ordination rites. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #4
What is Apostolic succession? cbayer Mar 2013 #5
It's the notion that one should be able for any valid ordination to trace the line of ordinations struggle4progress Mar 2013 #6
I had no idea. cbayer Mar 2013 #7
IIRC it's important to the Catholic church and to various Anglicans who believe that struggle4progress Mar 2013 #8
And also important to the Anglicans who refuse to recognise women as bishops muriel_volestrangler Mar 2013 #9
That could be. It would never have occurred to me, to attack ordination of women struggle4progress Mar 2013 #10
In the World wide Anglican Communion different views have formed on this. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #12
This is a good link. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #11
Thanks! While I knew there was some sort of links made, similar to the monarchy, cbayer Mar 2013 #16
I'd like to issue a communique from Ocho Rios. kwassa Mar 2013 #13
I think DU should send us there to discuss the problems facing our nation. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #14
heck, I'll even attempt an opinion on Anglican-Methodist ordination if it will get me the gig. kwassa Mar 2013 #15
 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
2. Methodists are in talks with Anglican bishops to receive Ordination from Anglican Bishops
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 03:31 PM
Mar 2013

so that they can get Apostolic succession. In the USA this has already been decided and will happen in a few years.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
4. Methodists are an offshoot of Anglicans but they were not so strict about the ordination rites.
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 03:38 PM
Mar 2013

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
6. It's the notion that one should be able for any valid ordination to trace the line of ordinations
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 08:29 PM
Mar 2013

back to the original apostles

Sort of like, y'know,

Peter ordained Aelhaearn, and Aelhaearn ordained Amit, and Amit ordained Barwon, and Barwon ordained Enapay, and Enapay ordained Hiroko, and Hiroko ordained Huiracocho, and Huiracocho ordained Than, and Than ordained Tikhon, &c&c


until one hopefully ends at the ordination under discussion

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
8. IIRC it's important to the Catholic church and to various Anglicans who believe that
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 08:36 PM
Mar 2013

the Apostolic Succession was maintained despite Henry VIII's somewhat heavy-handed intervention in church affairs

muriel_volestrangler

(101,316 posts)
9. And also important to the Anglicans who refuse to recognise women as bishops
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 09:14 PM
Mar 2013

They insist that bishops who were ordained by men, who were ordained by men, etc., be available to them - forever, I suppose - because they won't recognise any cleric with a female bishop somewhere in the succession.

I think this attitude is best explained with the word 'cooties'. Or, since it's England, by Martin Jarvis in his 'Just William' voice.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
10. That could be. It would never have occurred to me, to attack ordination of women
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 10:18 PM
Mar 2013

on those (or on any other) grounds, but I do not understand the conservative mindset

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
12. In the World wide Anglican Communion different views have formed on this.
Sun Mar 3, 2013, 10:35 PM
Mar 2013

To be a member you have to have Apostolic Succession and be in communion with the COE and the Archbishop of Canterbury. The Episcopal Church was the first member that Ordained women and while many members have given us grief they still accept our ordinations for the most part. When the COE Ordains women as bishops that is when there will be an interesting tug of war. It will be the North American, European, South African, and Oceanic Churches verses the South American and Central African Churches. The communion has always been ready to split but it never does. I doubt it will.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
16. Thanks! While I knew there was some sort of links made, similar to the monarchy,
Mon Mar 4, 2013, 12:03 PM
Mar 2013

I did not know much about it at all.

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