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cbayer

(146,218 posts)
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:21 AM Mar 2013

'Pink Smoke' demonstration calls for more female leaders in the Catholic church

http://www.nola.com/religion/index.ssf/2013/03/pink_smoke_demonstration_calls.html


The Women's Ordination Conference staged a demonstration outside of St. Louis Cathedral in the French Quarter on Sunday, March 10, to advocate for more female voices in the Catholic Church. (Photo by Juliet Linderman, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune)

By Juliet Linderman, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune
on March 10, 2013 at 4:42 PM, updated March 10, 2013 at 10:16 PM

In response to the unorthodox departure of Pope Benedict XVI -- who on Feb. 28 became the first pope to resign from the papacy in six centuries – and the subsequent gathering of 115 male cardinals to designate his replacement, a small group of Catholic women, and a few men, gathered just before noon outside of St. Louis Cathedral on Sunday to advocate for equal rights in the church.

The demonstration, organized by the local chapter of the Women's Ordination Conference (WOC), consisted of prayers, songs and a call for gender equality in the Catholic church that includes the ordination of women as priests, and an expanded effort to include women’s voices in the church and in the Vatican.

On Tuesday, when the conclave officially begins, a chapter of WOC will travel to Rome and send up a plume of pink smoke – a direct response to white smoke that will rise once a new pope is selected – to draw attention to the group’s cause. There will be similar demonstrations in nine cities across the United States.

“(On Tuesday) the women of the church, and the members of the Women’s Ordination Conference, send up pink smoke to protest the lack of women’s voices at the conclave, and to protest the ban on women from all leadership and decision making positions in the church,” said Kim Nunez, clad in a pink T-shirt. “We recognize this 'election' as the celebration of patriarchy, and the painful reminder of the misogyny of the hierarchy.”

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cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
1. I think a "put more women in leadership or we are all leaving the church" demonstration
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 11:26 AM
Mar 2013

would be more effective. But threats like that fail to work if everyone knows it's a bluff.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
2. Exactly.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:08 PM
Mar 2013

Even those much-touted "nuns on a bus" got off the bus and went right back to work. Did anything change?

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
4. Thanks for the insult.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:28 PM
Mar 2013

You stay classy, Chuck.

Perhaps instead of just lashing out with personal attacks, you can document what, exactly, the "Nuns on the Bus" accomplished? Did the RCC leadership change any policies based on their protest?

And then you can explain how effective a protest is if, after the protest is done, you go right back to being a subservient cog in the machine.

I suspect you'll do neither though, because you seem more interested in bashing those who disagree with you than actually solving problems.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
5. Hard to crap on something that started out as crap.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 12:52 PM
Mar 2013

Feel good demonstrations do little unless they are backed up by action.

You call that "crapping" on it, I call it a reality check.


Stunts like this pink smoke accomplish about as much as prayer does.

cleanhippie

(19,705 posts)
9. I guess we will have to wait. If pink smoke effects changes in the RCC, I'll eat my words.
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 04:56 PM
Mar 2013

I'm gonna go ahead and not miss any meals, though. You, me, and Charles all know the reality of the situation; until the laity begin to withhold their time, money, and support, change will happen at an evolutionary pace, at best.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
11. When I left the RCC and moved over to the Episcopal Church I saw first hand what women clergy could
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 09:43 PM
Mar 2013

do. The RCC is missing out on capable people who can minister to God's children. I wish they would get over their doctrine and make the leap as many other denominations have done. Women clergy rock!

okasha

(11,573 posts)
12. +10
Mon Mar 11, 2013, 10:14 PM
Mar 2013

The Mother Superior at my school could have wiped the floor with the Bishop without breaking a sweat.

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