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pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 12:46 PM Jun 2013

Can a Christian watch ‘Game of Thrones’?

(RNS) Is there anything morally redeeming about "Game of Thrones"? Does the hit HBO series even have a moral vision?

The show is certainly entertaining, almost addictively so, and as “Games of Thrones” wraps up its third season on Sunday (June 9), the ratings reflect that popularity: a record of more than 5.5 million viewers have followed the ruthless struggles for power among the teeming clans of Westeros, the medieval-looking world created by fantasy novelist George R.R. Martin.

That success has also guaranteed that the show will be back for a fourth year of mayhem and passion, swords and sorcery, despite this season’s many violent endings. Or, as one tweet put it after the bloody penultimate episode: “Why doesn’t George R.R. Martin use twitter? Because he killed all 140 characters.”

But therein lies the moral problem for some: The appeal of the series seems bound up in the senseless violence and amoral machinations – not to mention the free-wheeling sex – that the writers use to dramatize this brutish world of shifting alliances and dalliances.

http://www.religionnews.com/2013/06/04/can-a-christian-watch-game-of-thrones/
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Can a Christian watch ‘Game of Thrones’? (Original Post) pokerfan Jun 2013 OP
No, Christians are excluded libodem Jun 2013 #1
Indeed gcomeau Jun 2013 #2
Hee hee hee libodem Jun 2013 #3
When I was a kid, I confused the words "minions" and "onions." demwing Jun 2013 #5
"Minions" is a culinary term anyway. kentauros Jun 2013 #9
Cool, now I can ask for minions on my taco! /nt demwing Jun 2013 #10
Record that exchange when you have it. kentauros Jun 2013 #11
I would think a Christian might apply the principle of Philippians 4:8 when deciding that Adsos Letter Jun 2013 #4
Interesting article. riqster Jun 2013 #6
No, because it's not about Jeebus, therefore it's EEEEE-VVIILLLLLLL!!!! Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2013 #7
Possibly a sarcasm tag? el_bryanto Jun 2013 #8
My idiot neighbor told me "Buddhism is like Voodoo." Manifestor_of_Light Jun 2013 #13
I find it interesting that a religion which advocates demwing Jun 2013 #12
What is this atheist concern about hell? Fortinbras Armstrong Jun 2013 #14
You're so wrong that it's physically painful to read your post demwing Jun 2013 #15
... trotsky Jun 2013 #16
I don't know what flavor of Christianity you subscribe to Mariana Jun 2013 #17

libodem

(19,288 posts)
1. No, Christians are excluded
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 12:52 PM
Jun 2013

They are not allowed to watch G.O.T. And God will know if they do and then they'll be sent to burn in Hell for all eternity. So NO!

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
2. Indeed
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 12:57 PM
Jun 2013

Fantasy novelists are after all, as everyone knows, minions of Satan.

(Except the ones that wrote the bible of course)

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
5. When I was a kid, I confused the words "minions" and "onions."
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 01:09 PM
Jun 2013

To this day, when I hear about minions, I can't help but to think "onions," and your sentence read:

"Fantasy novelists are after all, as everyone knows, onions of Satan."

I also thought "stool pigeon" was another way of saying "midget."

Adsos Letter

(19,459 posts)
4. I would think a Christian might apply the principle of Philippians 4:8 when deciding that
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 01:01 PM
Jun 2013
8 Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.


Where does GOT stand in relation to that?

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
7. No, because it's not about Jeebus, therefore it's EEEEE-VVIILLLLLLL!!!!
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 02:41 PM
Jun 2013

The outside world is SCAAARRRYYY!!!!


el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
8. Possibly a sarcasm tag?
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 03:30 PM
Jun 2013

I've been thinking about this a lot lately - on what grounds does one participate in entertainment, as opposed to art - i think GOT, from what I understand (have too many other things I'm watching to catch up as yet) is probably closer to art than mindless entertainment?

How do you determine what is good art? Does it make you want to be a better person? Does it make you think? Does it make you feel? I don't know .

Bryant

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
13. My idiot neighbor told me "Buddhism is like Voodoo."
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 06:10 PM
Jun 2013

I swear to Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva.

Ignorant and stupid and proud of it. Don't want their kids to learn about the outside world. They do their children no favors by chaining their minds shut.

I'm not into sci-fi or fantasy, except for The Twilght Zone, so I would not watch GOT.

I think good art makes you think and is generally positive and not dwelling on dark things. I don't listen to negative music (Metal, country whiny shit, pure noise like hip hop) and I don't go to violent or horror movies b/c I will have nightmares about what I've seen. If it's historic like Schindler's List it's OK. I will not watch movies about gangsters or thugs or prizefighters who attempt to kill people for a living.

I studied piano and violin for many years and played first violin in many orchestras, school and community. I listen to some jazz, old rock and roll (ending with The Police), a great deal of classical music, especially chamber music, and some opera.

I think the best opera ever written is Don Giovanni, second is Marriage of Figaro, and third is anything by Puccini.

They put the words up over the stage in English, while they are singing, so you know what they are singing, even if it's in English. The first opera I saw that had Surtitles(TM) was Samson and Delilah in1990, and it totally rocked my world!!

You want musical recommendations, I got them!!

BTW, "Christian rock" is crap, as well as most of the boring Protesant dirges called hymns & the contemporary stuff church choirs sing. The good stuff in Christian music is in Latin mostly, written by classical composers like Mozart, Rachmaninoff, and Berlioz.

Mozart Requiem - Lachrymosa:



Rachmaninoff - Ave Maria:


Berlioz Requiem - Dies Irae:


 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
12. I find it interesting that a religion which advocates
Wed Jun 5, 2013, 05:13 PM
Jun 2013

An eternity of very real torture in a fiery hell in retaliation for about 100 years of "sin" should be concerned about a little fake blood and gore on the TV.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
14. What is this atheist concern about hell?
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 08:56 AM
Jun 2013

"Ah, Christianity is so bad that it condemns sinners to hell!" Apparently, you believe that actions should not have consequences. "Yes, he raped my sister, but he should not be punished, since his act should not have any adverse consequences." "Yes, she burned my house down, but that's OK, I shall not press charges." "No, Pol Pot should not be in hell; it is unfair that he should suffer."

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
15. You're so wrong that it's physically painful to read your post
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 09:22 AM
Jun 2013

#1 - I'm not an Atheist, but just because I believe in God doesn't mean I accept your path of guilt and shame.
#2 - I very much believe that actions should have consequences, but as I hinted at in my post (did you read it?) - the notion that an ETERNITY of suffering is justified for a single life time actions (good or bad) is monstrous.

Dispense with the Pol Pot references because you know as well as I do that the Christian philosophy - as currently taught - holds that the same hell awaits Pol Pot as awaits ANY person who doesn't "accept Jesus."

I can go through my life doing good deeds, feeding the poor, healing diseases, and saving kittens and puppies, but unless I kneel to Jesus and mean it in my heart, I get the same eternity of pain and anguish as Pol Pot.

So talk to me about your fucking righteous justice now.

Please continue...

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
16. ...
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 09:25 AM
Jun 2013


It's such an either-or with some of the simplistic religious minds. EITHER you believe in eternal punishment for "turning away from god" OR you believe there are no consequences for any action ever!

Mariana

(14,857 posts)
17. I don't know what flavor of Christianity you subscribe to
Thu Jun 6, 2013, 10:06 AM
Jun 2013

but many denominations teach that repenting and accepting Jesus results in there being absolutely no adverse consequences for you after death, no matter what awful acts you've committed during your life. Isn't that the whole point of the entire religion, that Jesus died for ALL the sins of humanity? Even someone like a Pol Pot gets to go to heaven, if he just sincerely converts to Christianity before he dies. Is it not so?

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