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Related: About this forumThe 'Proof of Heaven' Author Has Now Been Thoroughly Debunked by Science
In his book, Alexander claims that when he was in a coma caused by E. coli bacterial meningitis, he went to heaven. Of course, Dittrich's piece is not the first time that Alexander's text has come into question. In April, Michael Shermer at Scientific American explained how the author's "evidence is proof of hallucination, not heaven." But Dittrich calls into question not what Alexander experienced so much how he did. While Dittrich looks at legal troubles Alexander had during his time practicing neurosurgery, perhaps the most damning piece of testimony comes from a doctor who was on duty in the ER when Alexander arrived in 2008. Dr. Laura Potter explains that she "had to make the decision to just place him in a chemically induced coma." But that's not how Alexander tells it, according to the Esquire investigation:
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2013/07/proof-heaven-author-debunked/66772/
cbayer
(146,218 posts)I am particularly interested in how he is challenging his credentials as a neurosurgeon and who Laura Potter is.
NDE's and other reported experiences during comas or anesthesia are fascinating. They are also, of course, hard to either verify or challenge. In the end, they are what they are - unusual experiences experienced when the brain is under duress.
Some people experience them as highly spiritual. Others don't.
At any rate, based on what is available about this, I think the headline is completely wrong. But then again, I don't want to pay for the article.
Did you read it? Can you give any information that would confirm the claim made in the headline?
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Sorry, fellas, but there was just too much of Alexander's story that made sense to really "debunk" it when I got done reading it.
Furthermore, I found it highly intriguing that at least a couple of so-called "skeptics", namely, Steven Novella, and Sam Harris, proved to be highly evasive on the matter when asked how they came to their own "it's bunk" conclusions:
http://www.skeptiko.com/sam-harris-wont-debate-eben-alexander-on-near-death-experience-science/
C'mon, fellas, this is "National Inquirer" type stuff. Maybe 1% research and 99% hype and bull.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)But that's the whole problem, isn't it? I mean, why would someone lie - it's not like he's making money by selling books about his alleged experience, is he?
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)That's not really much of an indication of honesty, or the other way around, TBH: plenty of skeptics, genuine or otherwise, do the same thing as well.
gordianot
(15,247 posts)The nature of these experience will always be subjective and be questioned. For Dr. Alexander it was real even if there it is not proof, he went places Neurologists avoid.
At least he did not go to the pound and adopt animals for experimentation.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Of course, this is really still an infant field that we have only begun to understand, TBH, and it may be many more years before we can even begin to truly grasp it. But, I can say this: There are indeed some genuine experiences out there, that simply cannot be explained away by our current knowledge, no matter what some genuinely think, and/or may wish to believe, perhaps.....
Turbineguy
(37,374 posts)(or some other god-scamster) was struck by lightning and turned into a smoking piece of porkrind right there on the sidewalk, I might have to re-evaluate.....