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http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/09/24/using-religion-as-an-excuse-to-discriminate/?_r=0September 24, 2013, 10:11 am
Using Religion as an Excuse to Discriminate
By DOROTHY J. SAMUELS
An anti same-sex marriage placard in front of the Supreme Court on March 26, 2013 in Washington, DC.
A pernicious measure just introduced in the House, the Marriage and Religious Freedom Act, provides the latest example of political conservatives trying to use religion as an excuse to discriminate.
Drafted by Rep. Raul Labrador, Republican of Idaho, and endorsed by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, the National Organization for Marriage, the Family Research Council and other prominent opponents of same-sex marriage, the intolerant measure would inflict significant harm on gay people and their families.
Mr. Labrador describes his bill, which has over 60 co-sponsors, as a narrowly tailored piece of legislation needed to prevent the Internal Revenue Service and other parts of the federal government from punishing religious institutions that oppose same-sex marriage. Its actually very broad. The measure would prevent the government from taking any adverse actions based on acts in accordance with a person or groups religiously motivated opposition to same-sex marriage.
An invitation to both unfairness and bureaucratic chaos, it could potentially allow federal employees to refuse to process tax returns or Social Security, veterans or other benefit claims from married same-sex couples. It could also allow businesses to deny same-sex spouses their rights under the Family and Medical Leave Act, including time off from work to care for a sick loved one.
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Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)fair treatment of others when in fact his followers are leaders of the movement to deny fair treatment and to allow dogmatic bigotry to harm millions of people. Francis, the lead bigot, will not oppose but will endorse this action of his Bishops.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)While he has made the argument that the RCC needs to focus on other topics, this particular move on the part of the Bishops flies in the face of that.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)I mean, it's all Chris Hayes and Bill Maher and other Catholic raised Straight Men claiming Francis is so super liberal but I am really seriously offended by it.
cbayer
(146,218 posts)he can't change the dogma of the RCC.
I do think the change in tone can be a positive turn, but it won't change practice unless there is some dramatic change in the other levels of the hierarchy.
Goblinmonger
(22,340 posts)He could speak ex-cathedra and declare doctrine that being gay is not a sin. He could speak ex-cathedra and say that women can be ordained. He won't, of course, because Catholic heads, for the most part, would explode, but if he actually wanted to change the doctrine, he has the ability to do that as pope.
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)he would have to implicitly acknowledge that the principles of Catholic doctrine, which are represented as coming from god, and being immutable and unchangeable, are anything but. He would have to acknowledge that they are nothing but arbitrary bigotry and sexual prudishness.
LostOne4Ever
(9,290 posts)I will give the pope credit for being a great PR guy; but, until the actions of the church match the carefully measured and chosen words of the pope I remain skeptical of everything he say.
There is a big difference between everyone will be forgiven and everyone will be saved. Saying who is he to judge does not mean hes condoning anything.
That said, if I were still Catholic, I would latch onto any hope for positive change that may appear. Even if he has no real intention of changing anything, his outreach could pull more liberals into the church and maybe pull the church to the left in the distant future.
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)so enthusiastically, when you know he's so duplicitous, and has no real interest in changing anything for the better?
struggle4progress
(118,320 posts)Referred 19 September to Oversight and Government Reform, and to Ways and Means