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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts) Sat Oct 5, 2013, 05:25 AM Oct 2013

FFRF stops mandated Christian programs for probation condition

FFRF recently halted the practice of compelling convicted offenders to attend Miracle Lake Christian Training Center and other similar institutions as a condition of probation in Tennessee. Forced attendance for probation did not offer alternate non-religious, non-spiritual treatment options.

FFRF, a state/church watchdog from Madison, Wis., has over 20,000 members nationwide with over 300 in Tennessee.

FFRF received a complaint from an offender in Tennessee and sent letters to the Tennessee Board of Probation and Parole on Feb. 22 and the Department of Corrections on May 9 and July 12.

Staff Attorney Patrick Elliott explained that the core components and philosophy of the Miracle Lake Christian Training program are religious in nature since it is comprised of five phases: repentance, faith, mind renewal, life in the church and "life beyond."

http://ffrf.org/news/news-releases/item/18838-ffrf-stops-mandated-christian-programs-for-probation-condition

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FFRF stops mandated Christian programs for probation condition (Original Post) SecularMotion Oct 2013 OP

Good for them and it looks like they got a very positive response without a lawsuit. cbayer Oct 2013 #1

The litigation over the last decade has more to do with stopping this than a two page letter. rug Oct 2013 #2

FFRF is simply following Teddy Roosevelt's famous suggestion about big sticks. dimbear Oct 2013 #3

Teddy had a big stick, FFRF doesn't. rug Oct 2013 #4

LOL, FFRF really gets under your skin. SecularMotion Oct 2013 #5

Naw, just their press releases proclaiming how they STOPPED whatever it is this week rug Oct 2013 #6

cbayer

(146,218 posts)

1. Good for them and it looks like they got a very positive response without a lawsuit.

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 09:44 AM

Oct 2013

rug

(82,333 posts)

2. The litigation over the last decade has more to do with stopping this than a two page letter.

Reply to SecularMotion (Original post)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 09:51 AM

Oct 2013

dimbear

(6,271 posts)

3. FFRF is simply following Teddy Roosevelt's famous suggestion about big sticks.

Reply to rug (Reply #2)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:24 PM

Oct 2013

The sad part of it is that Scientology was listening carefully to TR too.

rug

(82,333 posts)

4. Teddy had a big stick, FFRF doesn't.

Reply to dimbear (Reply #3)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:28 PM

Oct 2013

SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)

5. LOL, FFRF really gets under your skin.

Reply to rug (Reply #4)

Sat Oct 5, 2013, 07:37 PM

Oct 2013

rug

(82,333 posts)

6. Naw, just their press releases proclaiming how they STOPPED whatever it is this week