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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 07:47 AM Oct 2013

Having no religion is normal

Who needs religion?

That’s the question being raised by a group of secular activists that has put up billboards in Michigan containing photos of smiling people that read: “Millions of Americans are living happily without religion.”

Those might be provocative words for the devout, but the Center for Inquiry — a New York-based group that also put up the billboards in Indiana, New York, and Washington, D.C. — says its “Living Without Religion” campaign will resonate with growing numbers of Americans. It points to surveys that show an increasing percentage of people in the U.S. don’t identity with any religion.

“We want to let nonreligious people in our communities know that they’re not alone,” said Jennifer Beahan, assistant director of the Center for Inquiry’s Michigan chapter. “They are among millions of Americans living happy, purposeful lives without religion.”

http://www.theleafchronicle.com/article/20131018/NEWS01/310180035/Billboards-Having-no-religion-normal
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Having no religion is normal (Original Post) SecularMotion Oct 2013 OP
Imagine charlives Oct 2013 #1
welcome to DU rurallib Oct 2013 #6
Break through the brainwashing! Dustlawyer Oct 2013 #2
and another benefit of not being religious is clydefrand Oct 2013 #3
Yeah I thought the same thing until my son was born! Lucky Luciano Oct 2013 #4
Having no religion pamdb Oct 2013 #5
Welcome to DU pamdb ~ toby jo Oct 2013 #7
I am happily and peacfully living without religion. tdb63 Oct 2013 #8
A cult achieves the status of religion when it gains enough followers. Rain Mcloud Oct 2013 #9
K&R for exposure. Rebellious Republican Oct 2013 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2013 #11
when you recite "One Nation under God" coldbeer Oct 2013 #12
I like what Robin Williams suggests: Auggie Oct 2013 #13
Auggie, I caught your response by accident coldbeer Oct 2013 #30
Thank Robin Williams! Auggie Oct 2013 #31
This is a great idea ajk2821 Oct 2013 #14
That's a really good question and I often ask it myself. cbayer Oct 2013 #18
Try being on the receiving end sometime. AtheistCrusader Oct 2013 #29
"Why do so many here when agreeing with the OP think that attacking religion .........?" dimbear Oct 2013 #20
And there you go ajk2821 Oct 2013 #22
Um hm. And Rachel Carson was attacked as shrill and dismissed. dimbear Oct 2013 #23
You would have to ask the individual posting LostOne4Ever Oct 2013 #25
First, Atheists don't have a "cause." Gore1FL Oct 2013 #28
I have no problem with it. PotatoChip Oct 2013 #15
agreed, potatochip. I don't need the format of a religious belief to feel the roguevalley Oct 2013 #16
True. cbayer Oct 2013 #17
Many members of my family have none. It is perfectly normal here in NYC. hrmjustin Oct 2013 #19
have religion Samanta Oct 2013 #21
Why? nt. Mariana Oct 2013 #24
You can teach kids everything people consider religious values by example and brewens Oct 2013 #26
Well, yes it is, but so is being religious. Deep13 Oct 2013 #27
I oppose billboards on moral grounds struggle4progress Oct 2013 #32

clydefrand

(4,325 posts)
3. and another benefit of not being religious is
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:26 AM
Oct 2013

you can sleep in on Sunday morning.
Since most religious people are only 'christian' on Sundays (and only during church service), they miss out on that.

Lucky Luciano

(11,257 posts)
4. Yeah I thought the same thing until my son was born!
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 08:35 AM
Oct 2013

Now I only get an extra 15 minutes of sleep on the weekend! That is definitely the worst part of parenting day to day - much less sleep!

Love the little guy though!

 

toby jo

(1,269 posts)
7. Welcome to DU pamdb ~
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:10 AM
Oct 2013

Nice to see a group promoting this awareness.

Hell, it's the non-religious leading the religious these days on issues of morality: homosexuality, healthcare, the environment, women's rights. Nevermind peace and guns. Always the liberal left telling the christian right to back off, and sooner or later they have to follow.

I know there are folks who practice some form of faith on our side. But you keep it relative, in its place. It's those 'all-religion all the time' sad sacks dragging everybody down who need to be handed a different reality.

 

Rain Mcloud

(812 posts)
9. A cult achieves the status of religion when it gains enough followers.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:22 AM
Oct 2013

I have been relatively happy ever since i realized that god only exists in the minds and hearts of his believers.
Don't get me wrong,i still love Christ but it is in the same way that i love the philosophers and all those who sought to advance mankind from Simian to Sapience.

Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

coldbeer

(306 posts)
12. when you recite "One Nation under God"
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:44 AM
Oct 2013

You are declaring yourself an atheist.

You do not pledge your faith unless you truly do not have "Faith".

ajk2821

(89 posts)
14. This is a great idea
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:54 AM
Oct 2013

I think it will help bring Atheism into the public eye.

Why do so many here when agreeing with the OP think that attacking religion and DUers who are religious will help their cause? I was agnostic for most of my life and even though I now go to a really liberal UCC church I still have my questions.

cbayer

(146,218 posts)
18. That's a really good question and I often ask it myself.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 01:04 PM
Oct 2013

I think it's mostly reactionary and says something about how comfortable one is with their own beliefs or lack of beliefs.

If one is comfortable, then there is no reason to feel threatened and no need to put down those that are different.

That goes for believers as well as non-believers.

What I like about these billboards is the positive message.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
29. Try being on the receiving end sometime.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 09:10 PM
Oct 2013

Like, blue laws, or religious test for office. Or fighting week after week to keep creationist bullshit out of our school textbooks.

'comfortable with my own beliefs' has FUCK-ALL to do with it.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
20. "Why do so many here when agreeing with the OP think that attacking religion .........?"
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 06:03 PM
Oct 2013

Because religion is destroying the world. I'm continually inspired by struggles like the fight fought by Rachel Carson against DDT and by C. Everett Koop against smoking. Ms. Carson may have realized that DDT was an effective insecticide, but she never let up on criticizing it, now it's gone. Same (nearly) with Koop's campaign. These things were everywhere two generations ago, now the world has gotten better. It can continue to get better by growing past religion into reality.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
23. Um hm. And Rachel Carson was attacked as shrill and dismissed.
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 09:17 PM
Oct 2013

Notice I'm not nailing anything to anybody's church door, either. I'm posting on a board where differing opinions are encouraged and valued.




LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
25. You would have to ask the individual posting
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 10:56 PM
Oct 2013

but I think most will tell you that they honestly believe religion to be overall a force that is harmful to society.

I can't and won't speak for the others beyond that; but, I, myself, try and take a more concillitory view. To me, I will commend a religious person when they use their religion as a force for good (getting people to help the poor) and condemn them when when they use it as a shield to hurt people (the religious right and their anti-gay bigotry). Eitherway, I don't criticize the person themselves for being religious in and of itself.

That said, I don't think the religions themselves, as opposed to their followers, are above criticism. I feel that if they highlight something bad they deserve to be called out on it. Lets take the most extreme example, ancient religions that advocated human sacrifice. I think any religion/sect that promote this view should be criticized don't you?

To me, not speaking out against a religion/sect/etc that promoted something like would be bad for society, put innocent people at risk, and would be immoral.

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Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
28. First, Atheists don't have a "cause."
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 09:10 AM
Oct 2013

I find people who cling to the meandering attempts of iron-age peasants to describe the physical world to be hilarious. We live in a in a world where we actually have many real answers.

When those people organize and try to force an agenda they perceive to be "God" inspired, they quit being laughable and become dangerous.

Believe whatever you want. I don't care.

Make no mistake, when people make policies based on myth, when they persecute others based on myth, when people block scientific advancement based on myth, when people tell me I should die based on myth, deserve to suffer for eternity based on myth, (or make me want to die while I suffer for what seems like an eternity of proselytizing based on myth) I get to respond.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
16. agreed, potatochip. I don't need the format of a religious belief to feel the
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 11:39 AM
Oct 2013

intensity of my spirit and all that goes with it. I find it easier without the holds of a dogma

brewens

(13,590 posts)
26. You can teach kids everything people consider religious values by example and
Sat Oct 19, 2013, 11:43 PM
Oct 2013

never set foot in a church. My parents did. Almost anyway. We went to church on occasion. Christmas usually.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
27. Well, yes it is, but so is being religious.
Sun Oct 20, 2013, 12:20 AM
Oct 2013

A lack of religion is normal for me because I was educated in the scientific tradition. The norms of science are the norms I internalized, naturalized, and through which I construct my perception of reality. That tradition includes these norms: there is only one reality, there is only one kind of thing--natural and not super-natural--in the universe, all problems have unitary solutions (no contradicting terms), and the nature of evidence is performative rather than discursive or emotional. That is it isn't enough to be logical or to feel that one knows, ideas must be tested.

Other perspectives exist, however, and for most of human history, they were all we had.

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