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rug

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Sat Jul 5, 2014, 11:08 AM Jul 2014

Pope Francis’s China conundrum—traditional Catholics or Communist Party Catholics

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By Heather Timmons
July 4, 2014

The incredible popularity and broad outreach efforts of the Roman Catholic Church’s Pope Francis have raised hopes that he will try to mend relations between the church and Beijing during a trip to Asia in August.

Beijing and the Vatican have not held official talks for six decades, despite the fact that together they hold sway over more than one-third of the world’s population. In recent years the relationship between the two has been downright hostile—in 2010 Beijing nominated several bishops to its state-recognized Catholic church without the Vatican’s approval, resulting in the church’s first ex-communications since the 1950s.

So far, there is no official confirmation that the Pope is considering a stop in China before or after his visit to South Korea, but there are plenty of signs that relations are thawing. Pope Francis said in an interview earlier this year that he had written to Chinese President Xi Jinping soon after both leaders were appointed, and “he answered me,” he said. “There are some relations.” Pope Francis also appointed a cardinal who spent years working behind the scenes on the church’s relations with Beijing as his secretary of state .

This week, though, a influential Catholic leader in Hong Kong sounded an alarm about the wisdom of a mainland China stop, one that the Vatican should probably heed. Hong Kong cardinal Joseph Zen Ze-kiun said he would advise the Pope: “Don’t come, you will be manipulated.” The Communist Party would only show Pope Francis the “illegitimate bishops” it tried to appoint years ago, the cardinal said, and keep him from visiting with Catholics loyal to the Vatican.

http://qz.com/230310/pope-franciss-china-conundrum-traditional-catholics-or-communist-catholics/

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Pope Francis’s China conundrum—traditional Catholics or Communist Party Catholics (Original Post) rug Jul 2014 OP
Marcel Lefebvre was excommunicated in 1988 Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2014 #1
I fixed the link to go straight to the article. rug Jul 2014 #2
I made my comment in response to the statement in the story Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2014 #3
Archbishop Ngo Dinh Thuc was excommunicated around 1980 for consecrating sedevacantist bishops. rug Jul 2014 #4
 

rug

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2. I fixed the link to go straight to the article.
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 01:30 PM
Jul 2014

I was checking out what kind of site quartz.com is and forgot to go back to the article.

Sorry about that.

Fortinbras Armstrong

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3. I made my comment in response to the statement in the story
Sat Jul 5, 2014, 03:10 PM
Jul 2014

"in 2010 Beijing nominated several bishops to its state-recognized Catholic church without the Vatican’s approval, resulting in the church’s first ex-communications since the 1950s." I was pointing out that Lefebvre was excommunicated in the 1980s.

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