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rustbeltvoice

(430 posts) Thu Jul 30, 2015, 04:47 PM Jul 2015

management practices of American bishops

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/7/29/anger-grows-ny-archdiocese-closing-churches.html

"...there is a lot of anger and suspicion pointed toward...Cardinal Timothy Dolan. She says the process used to decide which churches would close and which would survive, and the secrecy surrounding that process, has parishioners feeling more than a little deceived."

"...the decrees finally were released...in February, three months after the decrees were signed and well past the point when parishioners had the right to file for recourse,..."

"While most of these small, personal parishes take no money from the Archdiocese, they are nearly all financially sound, with many reporting budget surpluses. Yet they are being closed, their parishioners sent to larger, diocesan churches, many of which are heavily in debt, to the Archdiocese. "

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management practices of American bishops (Original Post) rustbeltvoice Jul 2015 OP

How he selects which parishes/churches to close Sanity Claws Jul 2015 #1

Let me tell you about the concept of "corporation sole", of which a bishop is a shining example. Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2015 #2

That's part of what the conflict was between St. Stanislaus and the St. Louis Archdiocese 47of74 Aug 2015 #3

Sanity Claws

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1. How he selects which parishes/churches to close

Reply to rustbeltvoice (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 05:05 PM

Jul 2015

Parishes with surpluses are being closed because they are located in wealthier neighborhoods and thus the real estate is more valuable. The sale of these churches will bring in more money to the church coffers than the sale of poorer churches in poorer neighborhoods.
Therefore, the Diocese is closing and selling the parishes that are financially sound and requiring those parishioners to travel further to a less wealthy area.
I wonder whether some parishioners in the closed parishes will go to closer Episcopal churches instead or simply stopped going.

Fortinbras Armstrong

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2. Let me tell you about the concept of "corporation sole", of which a bishop is a shining example.

Reply to rustbeltvoice (Original post)

Fri Jul 31, 2015, 08:49 AM

Jul 2015

A corporation sole is a legal entity consisting of a single ("sole&quot incorporated office, occupied by a single ("sole&quot person. This has the advantage of allowing the corporation to pass from one officeholder to his or her successor without any problems. This has the disadvantage in that the officeholder owns title, personally, to all of the assets of the corporation. Cardinal Dolan could sell St Patrick's cathedral, and there would be no one to say him nay.

47of74

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3. That's part of what the conflict was between St. Stanislaus and the St. Louis Archdiocese

Reply to Fortinbras Armstrong (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:39 PM

Aug 2015

St. Stanislaus Parishioners were worried that if they changed their 1891 bylaws to be the same as the rest of the Archdiocese that the next thing they'd know the parish would be closed.

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