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(53,989 posts) Mon Apr 30, 2018, 02:38 PM Apr 2018

(Jewish Group) After a refugee influx, does Germany have an imported anti-Semitism problem?

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BERLIN — Bullied students. Crude rap lyrics. An ugly confrontation on an upmarket city street.

In another country — one less attuned to the horrors wrought by anti-Semitism — evidence that the scourge is once again growing might have been ignored.

But this is Germany, a nation that nearly annihilated an entire continent’s Jewish population. And after a series of high-profile incidents, the country isn’t waiting to sound the alarm on a pattern of rising hatred toward Jews.

In recent days, demonstrators have filled the streets, a first-ever national coordinator to combat anti-Semitism has taken up his post, and officials from Chancellor Angela Merkel on down have spoken out.

Germany is also doing something difficult for a country that sees itself as the open and tolerant antidote to the prejudice-driven murder machine it once was: acknowledging that the problem’s resurgence has been fueled not only by the far right, whose views have increasingly infiltrated the mainstream, but also in significant part by Muslims, including refugees.

“The nature of anti-Semitism in Germany is definitely changing,” said Sergey Lagodinsky, a member of the assembly of the Jewish community in Berlin. “We’re having a lot more violent, everyday confrontations that come through incidents with immigrants.”

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(Jewish Group) After a refugee influx, does Germany have an imported anti-Semitism problem? (Original Post) Behind the Aegis Apr 2018 OP

Yes JustAnotherGen Apr 2018 #1

Did they attend the march in Berlin? Behind the Aegis May 2018 #3

I concur MosheFeingold May 2018 #4

Yep JustAnotherGen May 2018 #5

That's awesome. Behind the Aegis May 2018 #6

I don't think any serious person MosheFeingold Apr 2018 #2

JustAnotherGen

(31,902 posts)

1. Yes

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Mon Apr 30, 2018, 02:45 PM

Apr 2018

My younger BIL and his family live there and yes BTA -

He thinks so. He's an Italian immigrant living there who is 'germanized' and believes that Germany is not doing a very good job of 'Germanizing' the new comers.

He and his wife participated in those protests.

Behind the Aegis

(53,989 posts)

3. Did they attend the march in Berlin?

Reply to JustAnotherGen (Reply #1)

Wed May 2, 2018, 04:11 PM

May 2018

One thing I have never understood is why people have an issue with immigrants being expected to acculturate to their new country. It doesn't mean having to totally or even partially abandon their primary culture. If my husband and I moved to Poland to live, we would learn to live like Poles and attempt to speak Polish to the best of our abilities (likely easier for me than him), but we wouldn't "denounce" our American culture/ways or abandon them completely. It almost seems the pendulum has sung in the complete opposite direction from decades/centuries ago. In the past, immigrants did anything and everything to "shake off" their prior identities in order to "be more American" and prove they are "real Americans", this included not teaching their children their language, foods, culture, and other aspects. Now, it seems there are those who expect others to conform to them, which simply isn't possible given the vast diverseness of groups which immigrate. It would be nice to see a middle ground in which the new group feels accepted, but also understands new norms, and the host country recognizes the richness its new citizens bring and helps create a stronger, better country for everyone.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)

4. I concur

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Wed May 2, 2018, 04:25 PM

May 2018

I was watching video of Trump idiotic stand at the border with the South American immigrants.

They were waiving a Honduran flag and giving the middle finger to the border patrol (literally; they were "flicking them off&quot .

Just a piss poor attitude (and terrible optics).

Wrap yourself in an American Flag and give the border patrol flowers.