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Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
Wed Mar 28, 2012, 11:43 PM Mar 2012

Any other Carl Jung fans here???

I've been reading his stuff and it has been very enlightening for this "introverted sensation" type. The stuff on mandalas blew my mind, explaining the circular images that occasionally pop into my head when daydreaming

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Any other Carl Jung fans here??? (Original Post) Odin2005 Mar 2012 OP
No offense, but... Gurgen4 Apr 2012 #1
Interesting. I read all the quotes you posted GliderGuider Apr 2012 #2
+1 mecherosegarden Feb 2013 #10
he was speaking from a psychological prespective, not a philosophical one. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #3
easy to misinterpret Shagman May 2012 #7
The idea of synchronicity feels like an intuitive recognition of quantum entanglement. GliderGuider May 2012 #8
Yup tama Apr 2012 #4
I sort of know about jungian archetypes as they apply to the Tarot. Still Blue in PDX Apr 2012 #5
I have just discovered Jung's stuff Omniscientone May 2012 #6
fan deJong Nov 2012 #9
 

Gurgen4

(39 posts)
1. No offense, but...
Wed Apr 4, 2012, 03:37 AM
Apr 2012

I've always considered Carl Jung more or less a reactionary and banal fool especially when you put him beside Freud and Marx and his other contemporaries.

Here are some examples of Jung's morally and logically bankrupt ideology. Most of it is subversive, insidious and downright creepy.

"Your vision will become clear only when you can look into your own heart. Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes." (Makes no sense whatsoever)

Man needs difficulties; they are necessary for health. (Huh?)

In all chaos there is a cosmos, in all disorder a secret order. (Kant actually refuted this line of thaught.)

The most terrifying thing is to accept oneself completely. (Especially if you're a mass murderer, a Nazi, a boor. )

I have treated many hundreds of patients. Among those in the second half of life - that is to say, over 35 - there has not been one whose problem in the last resort was not that of finding a religious outlook on life. (Reactionary bullshit.)

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
2. Interesting. I read all the quotes you posted
Fri Apr 13, 2012, 12:48 PM
Apr 2012

and found them self-evident, obviously true in my own experience. I find Jung's insight much deeper than Freud's.

It's interesting how two such intelligent people as you and I can have such polar opposite views of life, isn't it?

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
3. he was speaking from a psychological prespective, not a philosophical one.
Sun Apr 15, 2012, 08:17 PM
Apr 2012

He was speaking of lived human experience rather than metaphysics. And he is using "Religion" in a different way most people use it today.

The most terrifying thing is to accept oneself completely. (Especially if you're a mass murderer, a Nazi, a boor. )


He was speaking of the Shadow complex, here. The things we hate and deny in ourselves are what you repress and then project onto other people.

Shagman

(135 posts)
7. easy to misinterpret
Sun May 27, 2012, 12:54 PM
May 2012

You need a little background in Eastern thought systems before Jung's deeper meanings make any sense. He seems to have foreseen some of our postmodern avenues of scientific research, such as chaos theory and quantum mechanics, which were also informed by Eastern thought. I'm not keen on synchronicity, but that may be because I don't understand quantum physics as well as I'd like.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
8. The idea of synchronicity feels like an intuitive recognition of quantum entanglement.
Mon May 28, 2012, 08:32 PM
May 2012

Physicists hate it when we say things like that.

 

tama

(9,137 posts)
4. Yup
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 10:55 AM
Apr 2012

I've read only the autobiography and bits from here and there. His influence spreads to many directions. A local public shaman tells that reading Jung during his most difficult time helped him a lot not to feel so alone with his experiences. Pauli, one of the fathers of Quantum theory, shared Jung's interest in what Jung called synchronicity: http://www.metanexus.net/essay/wolfgang-pauli-carl-jung-and-acausal-connecting-principle-case-study-transdisciplinarity

deJong

(7 posts)
9. fan
Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:30 PM
Nov 2012

I've been a fan of Jung since I was a teen and read Memories, Dreams, Reflections. He inspired me to go to school and become a psychologist. And those quotes that the earlier poster was disparaging? They all make sense to me. And it's pretty easy to take a single sentence out of context and mock it.

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