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xocet

(3,871 posts)
Mon Jan 16, 2012, 02:48 PM Jan 2012

Remember this other guy?




He drank a beer.





The Development of the Space-Time View of Quantum Electrodynamics
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So that didn't help me very much, but when I was struggling with this problem, I went to a beer party in the Nassau Tavern in Princeton. There was a gentleman, newly arrived from Europe (Herbert Jehle) who came and sat next to me. Europeans are much more serious than we are in America because they think that a good place to discuss intellectual matters is a beer party. So, he sat by me and asked, "what are you doing" and so on, and I said, "I'm drinking beer." Then I realized that he wanted to know what work I was doing and I told him I was struggling with this problem, and I simply turned to him and said, "listen, do you know any way of doing quantum mechanics, starting with action - where the action integral comes into the quantum mechanics?" "No", he said, "but Dirac has a paper in which the Lagrangian, at least, comes into quantum mechanics. I will show it to you tomorrow."

Next day we went to the Princeton Library, they have little rooms on the side to discuss things, and he showed me this paper. What Dirac said was the following: There is in quantum mechanics a very important quantity which carries the wave function from one time to another, besides the differential equation but equivalent to it, a kind of a kernal, which we might call K(x', x), which carries the wave function j(x) known at time t, to the wave function j(x') at time, t+e Dirac points out that this function K was analogous to the quantity in classical mechanics that you would calculate if you took the exponential of ie, multiplied by the Lagrangian...imagining that these two positions x,x' corresponded t and t+e.
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(http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1965/feynman-lecture.html)


Standards, hosts, standards....
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Remember this other guy? (Original Post) xocet Jan 2012 OP
He also played bongo drums! Odin2005 Jan 2012 #1
I also wouldn't be surprised if he tried all sorts of other "experiences" n2doc Jan 2012 #2
In fact he did. sofa king Jan 2012 #6
If you excluded all scientists who drank beer n2doc Jan 2012 #3
Indeed... xocet Jan 2012 #5
Tuva or Bust! progressoid Jan 2012 #4

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
2. I also wouldn't be surprised if he tried all sorts of other "experiences"
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:56 PM
Jan 2012

After his first wife died he had a pretty interesting life, judging from his books.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
6. In fact he did.
Thu Jan 19, 2012, 10:32 AM
Jan 2012

At least according to James Gleick, one of Feynman's biographers. In his own books, Feynman himself admitted to playing around with reefer and, of all things, Special K, and expressed a familiarity with LSD that suggests he tried it and didn't like it.

When Feynman recognized signs of habitual behavior in himself, he quit drinking. He suspected that both alcohol and LSD caused damage to the brain.

Wikipedia's mention of it squares fairly well with my dim recollection of Gleick's book, and my two paragraphs above are really just a rehash of that, so take my opinion with all of the authority that Wikipedia holds, which is not much:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
3. If you excluded all scientists who drank beer
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:57 PM
Jan 2012

You would have a pretty small subset....and no geologists!

xocet

(3,871 posts)
5. Indeed...
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 04:03 PM
Jan 2012

There is no proscription here. "Standards, hosts, standards..." only refers to the lack of a substantiating link to the supporting data. Sagan deserves at least that much.

Feynman probably did a lot of things and had no problem including some of that in his Nobel lecture.

Where would geologists be without copious amounts of "seismic tuning fluid"?

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