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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 09:41 AM Jul 2013

60 Billion Alien Planets, in Milky Way Alone, Could Support Life

Though only about dozen potentially habitable exoplanets have been detected so far, scientists say the universe should be teeming with alien worlds that could support life. The Milky Way alone may host 60 billion such planets around faint red dwarf stars, a new estimate suggests.

Based on data from NASA's planet-hunting Kepler spacecraft, scientists have predicted that there should be one Earth-size planet in the habitable zone of each red dwarf, the most common type of star. But a group of researchers has now doubled that estimate after considering how cloud cover might help an alien planet support life.

"Clouds cause warming, and they cause cooling on Earth," study researcher Dorian Abbot, an assistant professor in geophysical sciences at the University of Chicago, said in a statement. "They reflect sunlight to cool things off, and they absorb infrared radiation from the surface to make a greenhouse effect. That's part of what keeps the planet warm enough to sustain life." [9 Alien Planets That Could Support Life]

The habitable zone is defined as the region where a planet has the right temperature to keep liquid water on its surface, thought to be a requirement for life as we know it. If a planet is too far from its star, its water freezes; too close, water vaporizes. Since red dwarfs are dimmer and cooler than our sun, their habitable zone is much cozier.

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60 Billion Alien Planets, in Milky Way Alone, Could Support Life (Original Post) n2doc Jul 2013 OP
I sense we have been visited... FarPoint Jul 2013 #1
You need to contrast with the likelihood of technological life developing exboyfil Jul 2013 #3
The number seems high exboyfil Jul 2013 #2

FarPoint

(12,464 posts)
1. I sense we have been visited...
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 10:15 AM
Jul 2013

Religious leaders just won't let the truth be told....that would burst their power bubble.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
3. You need to contrast with the likelihood of technological life developing
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 10:31 AM
Jul 2013

and not being reset time and again by asteroid impacts, gamma ray bursts, massive solar flares, the low probability of eukaryote cell development, the low probability of intelligence forming (remember the time from Stegosaurus to T Rex is longer than the time from T Rex to humans), and the fact that technological life in our case has lived on the cusp of wiping ourselves out for the last 60 years.

exboyfil

(17,865 posts)
2. The number seems high
Tue Jul 2, 2013, 10:15 AM
Jul 2013
http://io9.com/5982457/45-billion-potentially-habitable-planets-may-orbit-red-dwarfs-in-our-galaxy

The attached article suggests 4.5 billion. I think that number is closer. Being close in to a star is not the greatest thing though (much higher likelihood of asteroid/comet impacts and more subject to solar flares. On the flip side you got a star that will burn essentially forever (unlike our own). The speculation is that, for reasons not yet determined, red dwarves are usually second or later generation stars (because of the presence of heavy metals). This makes each one a highly probable candidate for life (most likely you need heavy metals for life - I can't see complex chemistry going on with hydrogen, helium, lithium etc). You really need oxygen, carbon, and probably a few others (nitrogen, calcium, phosphorus, potassium, and sodium for starters).

If you have liquid water, energy, and chemicals available eventually you are going to have self organizing molecules and when they have the ability to propagate with favorable selection from mutations, you have life.
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