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LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
Tue May 6, 2014, 03:12 PM May 2014

50 years ago, Alan Shepherd was the first American in space

Photos from Space.com: http://www.space.com/11554-photos-nasa-mercury-alan-shepard-freedom-7-spaceflight.html













I've seen actual Mercury capsules at the Marshall Spaceflight Center in Huntsville, AL and at the Johnson Space Center. Once you've seen one of them, you'll realize why the requirements for the Mercury astronauts included a maximum height!

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50 years ago, Alan Shepherd was the first American in space (Original Post) LongTomH May 2014 OP
53 years ago, but it's still an amazing feat. And MannyGoldstein May 2014 #1
Thanks! WinstonSmith4740 May 2014 #5
Coolest video ever! riqster May 2014 #17
We watched most of the launches when I was a kid. rickyhall May 2014 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #3
Because it was very, very dangerous! MannyGoldstein May 2014 #6
That whole movie is great. Warren DeMontague May 2014 #9
I like the section in The Right Stuff about it... malthaussen May 2014 #16
Irregular heartbeat got him grounded... Octafish May 2014 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #10
Thank you for the kind correction, Warren DeMontague! Octafish May 2014 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2014 #12
Thanks, Octafish! I've long been critical of the way the Space Shuttle's design was........ LongTomH May 2014 #14
Thanks for the recs and the comments, everyone! LongTomH May 2014 #7
My childhood heroes were all astronauts icarusxat May 2014 #8
Mine, too. But with a crap spine and worse eyesight, my chances were nonexistent. riqster May 2014 #18
IT and music... icarusxat May 2014 #19
There are natural synergies between them. riqster May 2014 #20
so true icarusxat May 2014 #21
It was a relief to all be watching some heartening news for a change (after Kennedy) FailureToCommunicate May 2014 #13
Al was the man. malthaussen May 2014 #15
 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
1. 53 years ago, but it's still an amazing feat. And
Tue May 6, 2014, 08:19 PM
May 2014

here's your reward, if you haven't seen it - a very cool video of Shepards entire flight, showing him and the cockpit the whole time.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
2. We watched most of the launches when I was a kid.
Wed May 7, 2014, 01:40 PM
May 2014

Which often meant getting up before 5am, since we lived in Colorado.

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Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
9. That whole movie is great.
Thu May 8, 2014, 12:21 AM
May 2014

I assume you watched HBO's From The Earth to the Moon, too. Great piece of television.

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
16. I like the section in The Right Stuff about it...
Fri May 9, 2014, 12:49 PM
May 2014

It's always seemed to me that Glenn got more recognition and Shepard's been kind of overlooked. Well, suborbital, not the first time, and Al was no boy scout. But Wolfe points out how friggin' dangerous the whole thing was. "Our rockets always blow up." When Al told the boys to "light that candle," he had no way of knowing if that would be the last thing he ever said.

We're so blase about space flight now.

-- Mal

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
4. Irregular heartbeat got him grounded...
Wed May 7, 2014, 09:40 PM
May 2014

... Shepherd never quit and went to the moon.

Thanks fora the reminder, LongTomH!

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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
11. Thank you for the kind correction, Warren DeMontague!
Thu May 8, 2014, 09:20 AM
May 2014

My memory is not Funes'. From its dim recesses I recall:

Deke's issues, according to Joseph and Susan B. Trento, were somehow "overlooked" by Nixon's NASA leadership in order to get Deke out of Flight Operations so they could win astronaut office approval of the solid-liquid shuttle stack combo. NASA knew with him there, they couldn't get approval past the 1:100 solid rocket motor failure rate.

http://www.amazon.com/Prescription-Disaster-Apollo-Betrayal-Shuttle/dp/0517564157

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LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
14. Thanks, Octafish! I've long been critical of the way the Space Shuttle's design was........
Thu May 8, 2014, 03:56 PM
May 2014

.....compromised from the beginning. I'm also very critical of the way that some technologies from the Shuttle era are being recycled for asteroid and Mars missions intended for the 2020s and 2030s, mostly the same segmented solid rockets used on the Shuttle.

I did a quick Google search on "Prescription for Disaster Challenger." One of the more interesting sources I found was a pdf file of a report from the University of Texas Austin for a course in Studies in Ethics, Safety, and Liability for Engineers:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=23&ved=0CDkQFjACOBQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.engr.sjsu.edu%2Fnikos%2Fcourses%2Fae171%2FSS%2520Design.doc&ei=RdtrU5O2EYqpyAGW6YCQDA&usg=AFQjCNEtDtoynqohGA3QvnWQXbbitPTtJQ&sig2=wA_ZZaBvA4V4K7PSNE1oLA&bvm=bv.66111022,bs.1,d.cWc

The authors asked some very important ethics and safety questions:

There are many questions involving safety and/or ethics that are raised when we examine the history of the development of the Solid Rocket Boosters. The ethics questions are complex. If high standards of ethical conduct are to be maintained, then each person must differentiate between right and wrong and must follow the course which is determined to be the right or ethical course. Frequently, the determination of right or wrong is not simple, and good arguments can be made on both sides of the question. Some of the issues raised by examining the history of the SRBs are listed below.

1. Are solid rocket boosters inherently too dangerous to use on manned spacecraft? If so, why are they a part of the design of the Space Shuttle System?
2. Was safety traded for political acceptability in the design of the Space Shuttle?
3. Did the pressure to succeed cause too many things to be promised to too many people during the design of the Space Shuttle?
4. Did the need to maintain the keep costs low force decision makers to compromise safety in the decision to use SRBs with manned vehicles?
5. In awarding the SRB contract to Morton Thiokol, NASA did not violate any laws--but did it violate ethical standards?

icarusxat

(403 posts)
8. My childhood heroes were all astronauts
Wed May 7, 2014, 11:52 PM
May 2014

I followed in their footsteps and went through military pilot training, never did get to go to the moon. Some of my friends' heroes were in sports or the movies. Funny how none of us wanted to grow up and be a politician...no heroes there.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
18. Mine, too. But with a crap spine and worse eyesight, my chances were nonexistent.
Sat May 10, 2014, 12:10 PM
May 2014

Instead, I went into IT, back in '72. Did some work for NASA, even. That and music gave me two great careers, but ya know, I still dream about flying in space.

for Al!

malthaussen

(17,204 posts)
15. Al was the man.
Fri May 9, 2014, 12:37 PM
May 2014

The first elementary school report I remember writing was about him. I was in first grade. Absolutely loved We Seven and still have the first edition somewhere. Naturally I wanted to be an astronaut, but it's kind of hard to do that without depth perception.

As I got older I appreciated him more. Him and Pete Conrad, who was such a loon he joked his way into Group 2.

Oh, and not to quibble, but his name is spelled "Shepard."

-- Mal

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