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Little Star

(17,055 posts)
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 10:41 AM Jun 2014

How insects could feed the food industry of tomorrow



Would you eat meat fed on maggots? Raising pigs, chickens and fish on insect larvae could change the way we farm animals, says Nic Fleming

Millions of maggots squirm over blackened pieces of fruit and bloody lumps of fetid flesh. A pungent stench of festering decay hovers over giant vats of writhing, feasting larvae. It's more than enough to put most people off their lunch. Yet these juvenile flies could soon be just one step in the food chain away from your dinner plate.

Such nausea-inducing scenes are daily occurrences at a test site owned by AgriProtein, a South African company which began building what it says will be the world's largest fly farm a few weeks ago. Others in the US, France, Canada and the Netherlands are also gearing up for large-scale farming of insects to feed chicken, pigs and farmed fish.

Hundreds of people attended the Insects to Feed the World conference in Wageningen in the Netherlands earlier this month. Many of them are convinced that bugs can provide a sustainable alternative to more conventional but increasingly expensive cereals, fishmeal and soybeans.
http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140603-are-maggots-the-future-of-food

There's just some things I'd rather not know.
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Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. People I know who eat eggs from chickens
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 10:45 AM
Jun 2014

raised out in actual grass rather than in factory farm cages swear by the increased flavour you get from eggs laid by birds eating bugs, flower petals and whatever else they find in the yard. And gods only know where all of the various ingredients found in 'nutritional supplements' come from.

unblock

(52,224 posts)
2. this is why i don't eat meat. with vegetables, i know the food i eat was raised on, uh, manure....
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:09 AM
Jun 2014

ya can't think too hard about food. it's all gross, really.

mopinko

(70,103 posts)
3. lotta small poultry keepers already on this. black soldier flies.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:45 AM
Jun 2014

is a big one. this is so win win to eat our waste instead of bury it.
this is the next logical step from vermiculture.

i may try to do a black fly composter this summer, if i have time.
all kinds of clever diy things out there, built in chicken feeding and all.

i find this much less gross than feeding the stuff that the maggots eat straight to animals without that wonderful biological filter.

this is how mr darwin's process came out. insects used to feed the world in pretty much this way.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
4. Maggots clean infected wounds...
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 11:50 AM
Jun 2014

...were used that way for thousands of years, prior to modern medicine, and have been rediscovered by modern medicine as wound cleaners in this era of increasingly ineffective antibiotics. Maggots save peoples' lives! They also keep our environment relatively free of putrid, disease-carrying, dead flesh.

Would I eat them? God no! I have our DEEP-seated aversion to eating insects including (and perhaps especially) maggots, but, as an environmentalist and gardener, I've learned to respect and admire Mother Nature's awesome ability to turn garbage into nutrition and beauty. It's just the way it is. The muck is why we live. The wormier, and richer, and more garbage-laden the soil, the more sparkling, beautiful, edible life it creates.

Rich, wormy soil--composted from putrid, rotting table leavings and other "icky" stuff--produces the BEST vegetables and fruit imaginable--the tastiest, and the most packed-full of vitamins, minerals, fiber and other good things needed by the human body.

I was concerned about hummingbird feeders, which basically just provide sugar water to attract hummingbirds. Then I read up on it and found out that, a) the natural nectar that hummingbirds suck from flowers is basically sugar water, and b) hummingbirds have many other sources of food besides nectar or feeder sugar water--they eat insects, for instance--and these other sources provide them with the complex ingredients (proteins, vitamins, minerals, fats, etc.) that help fuel their tremendous energetic flight.

I knew, of course, that other birds eat insects, as well as leaves (they peck at young tender plants), seeds, fruits (gotta pick your plums before the birds get them all), gravels and other items, for a complex diet. But finding out that hummingbirds eat insects for variety brought home the notion of a COMPLEX diet, as well as the nutritiousness of insects.

It is far, far better that chickens, pigs and farmed fish are fed maggots and other insects than the toxic, planet-killing crap that modern agriculture--Big Chem, Big Ag--has inflicted on the land and on the critters we eat. Mother Nature TRANSFORMS "icky" things--putrid garbage, dirt, insects, worms--into lovely FOOD. Into us! When we interfere in that process--with chemicals, with monoculture--we are interfering with our own biology, to very bad effect. Other critters--the critters we eat--will NATURALLY seek out a COMPLEX diet--the best diet--if we let them.

The "more conventional" "cereals, fishmeal and soybeans" (that maggot farming will be replacing) are not just more costly--or, rather, the cost is not just money; they are bad farming and bad ecology. They have plunged the critters we eat and ourselves, and our entire planet, into ill health.

Of course, any mass production is worrisome. Mother Nature's magic is based on VARIETY. So that needs to be considered--evaluated, watched. How many mass productions of this or that have we been sold, that turned out to be detrimental, even horribly wrong-headed? Vast wheat fields leading to "dust bowls." Vast supermarkets leading to vast, toxic trash dumps and ocean trash filled with plastic packaging, not to mention hard, tasteless, nutritionally useless tomatoes! Vast freeways and numbers of vehicles leading to smog and gridlock. When it comes to human production, "vast" is almost inevitably bad. So we'll see about the maggot farms. But we need to change our notion that food should be antiseptic. The very best food comes from "ick."

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
5. It's just adding an unncessary step.
Mon Jun 9, 2014, 04:28 PM
Jun 2014

People can eat the bugs just fine. Running them through a cow or a pig first just reduces the efficiency dramatically.

At least with chickens you'd get the eggs and the meat.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
7. I've eaten several types of cooked insects. They are quite good.
Tue Jun 10, 2014, 09:31 AM
Jun 2014

don't knock them until you try them.

and what I find funny is: as humans, we eat all kinds of really weird stuff, but yet people get the heebies over eating insects. LOL

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
10. I do something similar with my chickens
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 07:45 AM
Jun 2014

A bucket with the bottom replaced by fine wire mesh hangs in the corner of their outdoor enclosure. When I have things I can't compost (old meat, cheese, gophers I trap or shoot on my garden) I place them in it. Flies lay eggs, and maggots fall out through the mesh for the chickens. They go nuts for them!

I've heard of people collecting roadkill for this purpose, but I'm not that desperate for free chicken feed.

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