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Related: About this forumMost Earth-like planet ever discovered could be a cosy home for alien life
An alien world that orbits a distant star in the constellation of Lyra may be the most Earth-like planet ever found outside the solar system.
The planet, named Kepler 438b, is slightly larger than Earth and circles an orange dwarf star that bathes it in 40% more heat than our home planet receives from the sun.
The small size of Kepler 438b makes it likely to be a rocky world, while its proximity to its star puts it in the Goldilocks or habitable zone where the temperature is just right for liquid water to flow.
A rocky surface and flowing water are two of the most important factors scientists look for when assessing a planets chances of being hospitable to life.
Kepler 438b, which is 470 light years away, completes an orbit around its star every 35 days, making a year on the planet pass 10 times as fast as on Earth. Small planets are more likely to be rocky than huge ones, and at only 12% larger than our home planet, the odds of Kepler 438b being rocky are about 70%, researchers said.
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http://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jan/06/earth-like-planet-alien-life-kepler-438b
Feral Child
(2,086 posts)I'm not a scientist, can't cope with the math, but I really enjoy layman reports.
SciFi geek, but I'm mostly in it for the girls...
Thanks for posting.
MillennialDem
(2,367 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)For example, if Venus had Earth's atmosphere, it would be a bit warmer but easily habitable by Earth lifeforms.
We don't have any idea what the planet's atmosphere is like. It might not even have one. Mars appears to have lost almost all of its atmosphere when its core solidified, so that it no longer had a magnetic field.
We also have no idea what the planet's mass is. It's slightly larger in diameter than Earth, but planets don't have a fixed density. So it could actually have less gravity than Earth....or it could have way more.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)They found one that they described as being like styrofoam.
MillennialDem
(2,367 posts)wouldn't a less dense planet imply a smaller mantle-core and larger atmosphere causing an even worse greenhouse effect, provided there are significant greenhouse gasses on the planet (whether in the atmosphere or ocean or rocks?)
jeff47
(26,549 posts)The planet was found using the 'transit' method. So all we know is the diameter of the planet and the period of its orbit. And that diameter only includes the solid parts of the planet, not the atmosphere. If it has one.
There's a whole lot of possible configurations of the planet and atmosphere, plus the interaction with the much closer star and its solar wind.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)MillennialDem
(2,367 posts)the extra heat cause more of that to get into the atmopshere (rather than remain in the rocks and ocean) and cause a runaway?
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)But it seems plant life ate up a lot of the CO2. On the plus side the massive amounts of oxygen they put out resulted in some big ass bugs.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)And we don't know that to be true. Methane could be more rare, for example.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)I suppose it depends some on the ingredients of the atmosphere. But I would guess you are right. My quick calculations say Venus gets about 50% more solar radiation than Earth, but the massive insulating properties of the Venusian atmosphere make it even hotter than that would suggest. My guess is Kepler 438b would fall somewhere between Earth and Venus climate-wise. "Cosy" may be the interstellar real estate codeword for "hot as hell."
Oh, further down in the article it says they expect Kepler 438b may have a mean temperature of 60 degrees Celsius, which works out to about 140 degrees Fahrenheit (or 14 furlongs if I got the right conversion factors there). That's Death Valley in July plus a smidge. Not pleasant. In fact, at that temperature it takes about 30-35 minutes to pasteurize milk. So, let's name the planet Pasteur.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)I think it was something called "Worf Drive ??
BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)Please save us from ourselves
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)5.88 trillion=one light year in miles....hope we discover 'warp' speed soon......
Judi Lynn
(160,545 posts)Eight new planets where life could exist found
By Ellie Zolfagharifard
8:31 AM Wednesday Jan 7, 2015
Eight new planets have been discovered in the 'Goldilocks' zone of their stars, orbiting at a distance where oceans and life could exist.
The discovery doubles the number of small planets less than twice the diameter of Earth that are believed to be in the habitable zone of their parent stars.
Among these eight, astronomers said there were two that were the most similar to Earth of any known exoplanets to date.
'Most of these planets have a good chance of being rocky, like Earth,' said lead scientist Dr Guillermo Torres, from the Harvard-Smithsonian Centre for Astrophysics in Cambridge, US.
The two most Earth-like planets, known as Kepler-438b and Kepler-442b, both orbit red dwarf stars that are smaller and cooler than the sun.
With a diameter just 12 per cent bigger than Earth, Kepler-438b has a 70 per cent chance of being rocky, the scientists have calculated.
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/science/news/article.cfm?c_id=82&objectid=11382935&ref=rss
BobbyBoring
(1,965 posts)We took the money spent on wars and used it for space research? We are going to need a new planet soon.
AllyCat
(16,189 posts)Hundreds of years. Their lives were measured by Keplerian visitors.