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progressoid

(49,998 posts)
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 06:48 PM Mar 2015

The First Ever Photo Showing Light as Both a Particle and a Wave


“Energy-space photography of light confined on a nanowire, simultaneously showing both spatial interference and energy quantization.”

“This experiment demonstrates that, for the first time ever, we can film quantum mechanics — and its paradoxical nature — directly,” says lead researcher Fabrizio Carbone of EPFL, on the lab’s project page. The study is to be officially published this week in the journal Nature Communications.

The image provided is shown above, issued with the following caption from EPFL: “Energy-space photography of light confined on a nanowire, simultaneously showing both spatial interference and energy quantization.” If you find it all a little hard to unpack — believe me, I’m entirely sympathetic — the team has also released this rather friendly companion video:



http://news.discovery.com/tech/photo-first-lights-captured-as-both-particle-and-wave-150302.htm
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The First Ever Photo Showing Light as Both a Particle and a Wave (Original Post) progressoid Mar 2015 OP
k and r niyad Mar 2015 #1
An image of light particles packman Mar 2015 #2
Whoa! Dude! gregcrawford Mar 2015 #3
I am impressed TNNurse Mar 2015 #4
There is a novel by Ellen Gilchrist TNNurse Mar 2015 #5
Thanks for info! burrowowl Mar 2015 #10
Video is friendly enough but doesn't explain much FiveGoodMen Mar 2015 #6
OK, I think I have it caraher Mar 2015 #9
Thanks! Peace Patriot Mar 2015 #11
this makes sense. i've always wondered how this duality could be visualized. samsingh Mar 2015 #7
This story is all over the place and I feel like I'm missing something caraher Mar 2015 #8
I'd love for someone in quantum physics to reply. Springslips Mar 2015 #12
I think a lot of this comes down to the applicability of these models caraher Mar 2015 #13
 

packman

(16,296 posts)
2. An image of light particles
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 01:22 PM
Mar 2015

surfing on waves crossed my mind. Experiment must have been done in California. Hang 10, Big Kahuna - ride those waves.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
3. Whoa! Dude!
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 01:57 PM
Mar 2015

That's what my acid trips used to look like! Look, Mom! I'm a wave-icle!

"Crazy Jimmy" Inhofe says quantum mechanics is a liberal hoax, so if the Sun shines equally on everyone, it must be a socialist, right?

TNNurse

(6,929 posts)
5. There is a novel by Ellen Gilchrist
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 06:45 PM
Mar 2015

For those who might be interested: "Light can be both wave and particle". I like her books and I liked this one... it is remember a novel.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
6. Video is friendly enough but doesn't explain much
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 07:40 PM
Mar 2015

Particularly, I'd like to know more about how to interpret the image at the top of the post.

caraher

(6,279 posts)
9. OK, I think I have it
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 08:21 PM
Mar 2015

You see in the image, along a line of a given color, a pattern of four bumps. Those bumps correspond to the locations of peaks in the standing wave of light the researchers excited along the nanowire. This is what they are referring to as the wavelike aspect of light in their data - this consistent wave structure.

Along the perpendicular direction you see two things. Imagine taking a slice through that, such that on the left you have the low peaks (in red) and on the right tall peaks. That axis represents the exchange of energy between the standing wave and the electrons used to probe the standing wave. The heights of the peaks represent something like the number of electrons that absorbed a given amount of energy from the standing wave. You'll immediately notice that only certain values of the energy absorbed by the electrons are likely - there are "valleys" between the peaks - and those peaks are roughly equal distances apart. That is the "particle nature" they are referring to - each successive peak, as one moves "out" to the left, represents electrons that absorbed 1, 2, 3, 4... photons, respectively. I think I count basically 8 peaks; I think the paper said they observed individual electrons that had absorbed as many as 9 photons (and I might not be locating "0 photons" correctly).

caraher

(6,279 posts)
8. This story is all over the place and I feel like I'm missing something
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 07:57 PM
Mar 2015

Someone knows how to play the PR game, that's for sure. It stretches the definition of "photo" to call this kind of reconstruction a photograph, and by what standard this qualifies as a "first ever" is completely unclear to me. I read quickly through the journal article and it appears mainly to be the first time anyone has probed certain features of a certain kind of light field with electrons this way. But I'd be awfully surprised if a little digging wouldn't turn up lots of experiments that could be plugged as "capturing light as both a particle and a wave" in a visually interesting way.

Springslips

(533 posts)
12. I'd love for someone in quantum physics to reply.
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 11:31 AM
Mar 2015

In my so little knowledge of QM this article is loads of bull. ( not the science which may be good, but the journalism.) It is not decided that light is both particle and wave, other than that there is a probability wave that sometimes collapses into a particle when we measure it. Which brings up deep mysterious questions, but not the one the media likes to act like it is.

I am sure the science of this article is fascinating, but the journalism is terrible.

caraher

(6,279 posts)
13. I think a lot of this comes down to the applicability of these models
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 02:49 PM
Mar 2015

There's really no particular reason to expect that our minds are truly equipped to grasp in an intuitive way what happens in these systems. We have a mental model of particles, and we have a mental model of waves, and we can shoehorn observations of quantum phenomena, with varying levels of success, into these models.

Bohr tended to reframe, for excellent reasons, these discussions away from statements about what a photon (or electron or any other quantum "particle/wave&quot "really is" and toward what a given experiment can tell you. Experiments designed to study particle-like behaviors give particle-like results; experiments that probe wave features give wave-like results. If you take the famous 2-slit experiment and record which slit a particle passes through, the result is particle-like behavior; on the other hand, absent that information, you get wave-like results. If you do something in-between, where you have partial but not perfect information about which slit a particle may have passed through, you get something in between the particle and wave predictions. Are we observing properties of what's "out there" in nature? Or is it that, in using our experiments to understand better the microscopic world, we necessarily only look at "slices" of the phenomena that we know how to process mentally?

In this experiment, you see a standing wave pattern, which happens in physical space, as a wave-like behavior. You also see energy come out of the light field in discrete "chunks" of energy, which can be explained by absorption of individual photons. Their data looks a lot like data other graduate students in my lab ~15 years ago obtained while studying high harmonic generation, whereby an intense laser pulse interacts with an atom to create light at a much higher frequency (but always in some integer multiple of the frequency of the laser's light).

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