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Buzz Aldrin just tweeted this (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Mar 2015 OP
See you at the party Richter! miyazaki Mar 2015 #1
Some dude hitting golf balls on the moon Orrex Mar 2015 #2
Golfballs was Alan Shepard MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #5
And the one who punched out the guy Ken Burch Mar 2015 #7
That was wrong. MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #9
About Sen. Warren DownriverDem Mar 2015 #20
Who is running for President MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author demwing Mar 2015 #36
You don't call an ex Navy test pilot awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #42
And an MIT PhD MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #43
All those guys had something, that is for sure... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #44
I. Am. So. Envious. MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #45
I got sort of close customerserviceguy Mar 2015 #52
WTF? Hekate Mar 2015 #46
Awesome! blackspade Mar 2015 #3
when I was a kid (and now at damn near 60),... MarianJack Mar 2015 #4
I was proud that he graduated from Montclair High School, my alma mater, DamnYankeeInHouston Mar 2015 #6
In a Tiny Little Lodge in Houston: Xipe Totec Mar 2015 #10
Nice, thanks for sharing. mountain grammy Mar 2015 #16
I like that. I so wanted to go to the stars. I'm sorry we gave that up. Hekate Mar 2015 #47
Do we really need to get our asses to Mars? Hoppy Mar 2015 #8
Yes. To Mars, The Moon, and the entire inner system.... LunaSea Mar 2015 #11
and getting us to Mars, Venus or where ever, is going to help us, how? Hoppy Mar 2015 #12
That's very long term. drm604 Mar 2015 #13
Make sure an asteroid strike doesn't wipe us out? So now we are better than the dinosaurs? A Simple Game Mar 2015 #18
"He who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe,..." SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2015 #24
I was being a little tongue in cheek, but your reason is much better than A Simple Game Mar 2015 #29
I'm not even sure how to answer a question like that. Yes we are more important than dinosaurs. drm604 Mar 2015 #33
Sure you knew how to answer it. A Simple Game Mar 2015 #35
This is dumb. drm604 Mar 2015 #37
Climate change is the first concern.... daleanime Mar 2015 #32
Absolutely. drm604 Mar 2015 #34
raw materials, rare minerals, etc. bigbrother05 Mar 2015 #14
Putting some of our eggs in another basket LunaSea Mar 2015 #26
No, US tax payers shouldn't spend hundreds of billions of dollars for science fiction fantasy. cpwm17 Mar 2015 #39
We are on Mars: That's the funny thing about this stuff Johonny Mar 2015 #49
Waste of money. mimi85 Mar 2015 #15
Wow. Android3.14 Mar 2015 #21
I wouldn't really call it a "waste." GoCubsGo Mar 2015 #22
Are these things really mutually exclusive? LunaSea Mar 2015 #27
Only when the funding is unlimited, or close to it. GoCubsGo Mar 2015 #38
NASA is a tiny part of the budget. longship Mar 2015 #28
I can think of some benefits... Alkene Mar 2015 #17
You aren't thinking about one way tickets are you? n/t A Simple Game Mar 2015 #19
Maybe. Alkene Mar 2015 #40
It would be nice to just send the ship far enough to do the job and then have it return. A Simple Game Mar 2015 #41
Why do you hate Mars? Liberalagogo Mar 2015 #23
That's what Venus is for.... daleanime Mar 2015 #31
Hell yes..... daleanime Mar 2015 #30
Where was that great photo taken? Those are ancient standing stones, & he's using them... Hekate Mar 2015 #48
Yes, it is Stonehenge muriel_volestrangler Mar 2015 #50
In related news, the first space walk was 50 years ago today muriel_volestrangler Mar 2015 #51
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
7. And the one who punched out the guy
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:19 AM
Mar 2015

who was chasing him through a hotel lobby demanding that he admit the moon landing was a hoax.

Always kind of admired Buzz for that.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
20. About Sen. Warren
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 09:51 AM
Mar 2015

The Dems need Sen. Warren in the Senate. She is the voice that needs to be heard. The Senate is a powerful place and Sen. Warren is the one who will make sure our ideas get front and center. She is not running for President. Please re-consider your support.

Response to DownriverDem (Reply #20)

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
42. You don't call an ex Navy test pilot
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 10:59 PM
Mar 2015

and someone who strapped, basically, a bomb on their back a coward and liar without consequences and repercussions.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
44. All those guys had something, that is for sure...
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 11:15 PM
Mar 2015

I met Charlie Duke about 5 years ago- he seems like a great guy. We let him fly our A320 sim- he greased it in like he had 5k hours in it.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
52. I got sort of close
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 08:59 PM
Mar 2015

I met Al Worden at the Kennedy Space Center. No, he didn't walk on the moon, but how many humans have circled around it? Not many!

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
4. when I was a kid (and now at damn near 60),...
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 07:55 AM
Mar 2015

...astronauts were my heroes, and to me, Buzz Aldrin was always #1. You GO BUZZ!!!

PEACE!

DamnYankeeInHouston

(1,365 posts)
6. I was proud that he graduated from Montclair High School, my alma mater,
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:14 AM
Mar 2015

in New Jersey in the same class as my uncle.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
10. In a Tiny Little Lodge in Houston:
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:29 AM
Mar 2015

there is a small blue flag emblazoned with a square and compass.

A flag which Bro. Buzz Aldrin flew to the moon and planted on lunar soil, to claim the moon under the jurisdiction of the Grand Lodge of Texas AF&AM.

The first Masonic Lodge on the moon, if we ever develop that far, will be chartered by the Grand Lodge of Texas.

I am proud to be a member of that tiny Lodge; the best little Blue Lodge in Texas.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=6103092&mesg_id=6103201

Hekate

(90,704 posts)
47. I like that. I so wanted to go to the stars. I'm sorry we gave that up.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 12:37 AM
Mar 2015

I think losing that dream diminishes us.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
8. Do we really need to get our asses to Mars?
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:19 AM
Mar 2015

The sadest thing about this plan is the pair that want to have the first kid born on Mars. Is it likely, that kid would die alone after burying everyone else on that planet?

LunaSea

(2,894 posts)
11. Yes. To Mars, The Moon, and the entire inner system....
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:36 AM
Mar 2015

Otherwise it's likely humanity might die right here, alone in the night.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
12. and getting us to Mars, Venus or where ever, is going to help us, how?
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:40 AM
Mar 2015

An exploding Sun will take them all.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
13. That's very long term.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:51 AM
Mar 2015

Before then, we can try to make sure that any one asteroid strike, for example, doesn't wipe us out.

Regarding the Sun exploding or dying in some other manner; we may or may not eventually be able to do something about that, but let's first worry about making it until then.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
18. Make sure an asteroid strike doesn't wipe us out? So now we are better than the dinosaurs?
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 09:49 AM
Mar 2015

Now I like life and hope to get some more chances at it but, tell us, what is so special about the human race that we have to survive?

 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
24. "He who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe,..."
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 10:18 AM
Mar 2015

“The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed.” Einstein

If you can not feel the mystery, There is no way to answer your question. We are the universe looking at itself. We have no right to close our eyes.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
29. I was being a little tongue in cheek, but your reason is much better than
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 10:59 AM
Mar 2015

mere survival of the species. But curiosity can take many forms. This thread has made me wonder what would replace us as the dominant species if we did get wiped out. Does it exist now or would it be some completely new species. Whichever I vote for water based for the next dominant species. Do I think we will be wiped out? Maybe, but more likely by our own hands and not by an asteroid.

As for space? I was disappointed when they canceled the shuttle before having a replacement ready. I love space and at 64 still look up every time I go outside after dark; luckily I live in a rural area so there is actually something to see on clear nights. But being 64 my mysteries now need to be solvable in a shorter period of time.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
33. I'm not even sure how to answer a question like that. Yes we are more important than dinosaurs.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 11:17 AM
Mar 2015

In the cosmic scheme of things, I suppose we're not that important. But to ourselves we are. I'm not going to commit suicide or fail to take safety precautions just because I'm a spec in a vast universe.

We're important to ourselves. That's enough. It's basic human instinct to want ourselves, our family, our friends, and our descendants to survive and do well.

All of that is self-evident to me. It's part of the human psyche.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
35. Sure you knew how to answer it.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 11:45 AM
Mar 2015
We're important to ourselves. That's enough. It's basic human instinct to want ourselves, our family, our friends, and our descendants to survive and do well.


Wow, nice sentiment. You would think we should treat each other better than we have so far.

Oh, and I doubt the dinosaurs would agree with you putting them in second place but that's just a guess.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
37. This is dumb.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 11:56 AM
Mar 2015

Dinosaurs didn't have the capacity to agree or disagree.

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve here, but I'm not participating any longer. Go ahead and have the last word if it makes you happy.

LunaSea

(2,894 posts)
26. Putting some of our eggs in another basket
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 10:28 AM
Mar 2015

Same motivations behind all human wandering, more resources, more available energy, room to grow.
(And that great motivator- getting the hell away from some people.)


Spaceflight being among the most difficult activity humans engage in, it is easier and less expensive when we work at it together.
Perhaps there is a lesson in that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_effect
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/live-iss-stream

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
39. No, US tax payers shouldn't spend hundreds of billions of dollars for science fiction fantasy.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:40 PM
Mar 2015

Neither the Moon or Mars are our future.

The US spent some 300 billion dollars in today's money to send twelve people to the Moon. We quit going since there is no practical reason for people to leave the Earth.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
49. We are on Mars: That's the funny thing about this stuff
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 01:02 PM
Mar 2015

You have a link on a page to our rovers exploring Mars right next to a cry for us to explore Mars... as if we weren't doing it. Always love me some Buzz anyways, though.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
21. Wow.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 09:58 AM
Mar 2015

There are many people who used to think that, but a brief moment of research shows a completely different picture.

A brief list includes solar panels, implantable heart monitors, anti‐cancer therapy, cordless tools, light‐ 
weight high‐temperature alloys, cameras found cell phones, compact water‐purification systems, global
search‐and‐rescue systems and biomedical technologies.

Once people realized the enormous benefits of space exploration, they begin to support this human endeavor. One might as well call the voyages of Magellan and Columbus a waste of money.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
22. I wouldn't really call it a "waste."
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 09:58 AM
Mar 2015

I would love to see it happen at some point. But, I agree that we have far bigger needs for the funds here on Earth. Especially when funding for scientific research, in general, is already in extreme short supply. Before traveling to an uninhabitable planet, I'd rather to see this one be kept from being uninhabitable itself.

GoCubsGo

(32,084 posts)
38. Only when the funding is unlimited, or close to it.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 01:48 PM
Mar 2015

Right now, that is so far from the case, it isn't funny. The money available for scientific research has been in decline for over a decade. That's for everything--biomedical, environmental, space and technology....

longship

(40,416 posts)
28. NASA is a tiny part of the budget.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 10:35 AM
Mar 2015

And the pay backs are greater than what is spent, as another response cited.

I'm all in on increasing NASA funding.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
41. It would be nice to just send the ship far enough to do the job and then have it return.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:10 PM
Mar 2015

Then there is the money from the closed circuit pay-per-view of the "accidental" door opening. I can see this project ending up with a profit.

Hekate

(90,704 posts)
48. Where was that great photo taken? Those are ancient standing stones, & he's using them...
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 12:47 AM
Mar 2015

...as a gateway to the stars. It's a wonderful visual -- and I agree with him. I'd ask when Buzz got so ancient, but I'm not so young myself anymore.

I thought we'd have gone further than we have by now, but instead the US is bumming rides to the International Space Station with the Russians, and soon will give up the Station entirely. I feel we have chosen to diminish ourselves.

On edit: It sure looks like Stonehenge, but perspective makes the gateway look smaller, so I asked.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,320 posts)
50. Yes, it is Stonehenge
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 08:02 PM
Mar 2015
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-31920141

He's in Britain for the partial eclipse on Friday morning - they just had him as the guest on the BBC's 'Stargazing Live' programme.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,320 posts)
51. In related news, the first space walk was 50 years ago today
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 08:05 PM
Mar 2015
Russian cosmonaut remembers mankind's first walk in space

Half a century after Alexei Leonov carried out the first spacewalk he still vividly recalls the moment he emerged from the capsule to become the only human to have floated in the cosmos.

“I gently pulled myself out and kicked off from the vessel,” former cosmonaut Leonov, now a sprightly 80-year-old working for a Moscow bank, told AFP.

“(There were) inky black, stars everywhere and the sun so bright I could barely stand it.”

Tethered to the craft with a five-metre (16-foot) cord, he gazed in wonder at the earth’s geography laid out sweepingly below him, his motherland perfectly visible.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/18/russia-soviet-first-space-walk-alexei-leonov

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