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progressoid

(49,999 posts)
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 11:10 AM Mar 2015

Iconic Space Images Are Actually Black-and-White



Published on Mar 17, 2015

The Hubble Space Telescope can take only black-and-white images. But by analyzing the wavelengths of light that different elements emit in space, this man turns dull pictures of our universe into the colorful masterpieces we've come to love.
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Iconic Space Images Are Actually Black-and-White (Original Post) progressoid Mar 2015 OP
That first image... TeeYiYi Mar 2015 #1
Pareidolia trotsky Mar 2015 #2
Huh. Interesting... TeeYiYi Mar 2015 #3
Yeah. Cheviteau Mar 2015 #11
Learned something new. Gracias. byronius Mar 2015 #4
Didn't know there was a term for that. Thanks. n/t. bvf Mar 2015 #8
Is there a name for seeing, well, sex stuff in everything; greiner3 Mar 2015 #12
BBC published some articles about it cprise Mar 2015 #20
K&R... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #5
The James Webb? progressoid Mar 2015 #6
yes, I think that's it awoke_in_2003 Mar 2015 #7
Just... wow. gregcrawford Mar 2015 #9
I wouldn't say "Black-and-White." The Hubble actually has much better color vision than humans... hunter Mar 2015 #10
Whoa, you just blew my mind! nomorenomore08 Mar 2015 #13
I'm so tired of science articles that get basic facts wrong.. Fumesucker Mar 2015 #16
I have a little 640X480 digital camera I bought at a thrift store for $5.00 hunter Mar 2015 #17
And Black and White isn't correct termonology.. StarzGuy Mar 2015 #18
It's difficult to offer a simple description. hunter Mar 2015 #19
The one of the Milky Way's center might be the most striking, IMO. nomorenomore08 Mar 2015 #14
actually, it's not correct to say they are "black and white". Due to our limited perception of Bill USA Mar 2015 #15

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
1. That first image...
Wed Mar 25, 2015, 12:06 PM
Mar 2015

...of the Carina Nebula looks like it could be comprised of a who's who of Greek gods and goddesses; particularly Poseidon, front and center. I can see a minimum of 8 or 9 faces in that image. Most include the upper torso. That could be Queen Hera just to the left of Poseidon and Aphrodite just back and to the right of Poseidon with Zeus behind Aphrodite. Perseus or Achilles on the far left in profile with the helmet. There are several more possibilities. I'm pretty sure Hades is in there somewhere...

I see faces in everything.

TYY

 

greiner3

(5,214 posts)
12. Is there a name for seeing, well, sex stuff in everything;
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 11:50 AM
Mar 2015

Other than being a sex starved old man?

cprise

(8,445 posts)
20. BBC published some articles about it
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 09:01 PM
Mar 2015
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22686500

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21922834

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-18952667

Pareidolia is also covered in books like Carl Sagan's 'Demon Haunted World'. It goes a long way in explaining why people gravitate toward religion.

hunter

(38,328 posts)
10. I wouldn't say "Black-and-White." The Hubble actually has much better color vision than humans...
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 11:06 AM
Mar 2015

...and your ordinary film or video camera.

The Hubble itself is capable of "seeing" colors we cannot see.

The pictures NASA publishes are not colorized in the way an old black-and-white might be colorized, with an artist choosing arbitrary colors, in effect guessing most of the time what the original colors might have been when the movie is filmed. Instead the NASA artist (and yes, it is art) is arranging the actual color information returned by the telescope in a way that makes sense to the pathetically poor color vision of the human eye in a way that is scientifically interesting and/or aesthetically pleasing.

Sometimes the goal of the NASA artist is to recreate what a human eye might see if gazing upon the object directly, but many of these objects are so faint and so far away that no human is ever going to "see" them as Hubble does.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
16. I'm so tired of science articles that get basic facts wrong..
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 05:45 PM
Mar 2015

Technically digital cameras only take black and white pictures also, the Bayer matrix in front of the sensor filters out the red, green and blue portions of the spectrum and you have pixels that represent the three primary colors which are then combined in the camera with an algorithm to produce a color image.



Basically the Hubble acts very much like a 3 CCD video camera, except the exposures are one at at time rather than simultaneously..

hunter

(38,328 posts)
17. I have a little 640X480 digital camera I bought at a thrift store for $5.00
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 06:02 PM
Mar 2015

Feeling adventurous I removed both the IR filter (easy) and the Bayer matrix (difficult).

It now "sees" everything from the near infrared to the near ultraviolet.

I'm not wealthy enough to play with more serious sensors, or acquire any serious color filters.


StarzGuy

(254 posts)
18. And Black and White isn't correct termonology..
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 07:06 PM
Mar 2015

A better term would be grey scale, where there are numerous levels of grey "colors" between black and white. If these images were actually only black and white then there would be only 2 colors, black and white. With these Hubble images matched with peak wavelength data for various elements "false" colors in the visible, UV and infrared are "assigned" a specific grey scale color to produce these beautiful images.

hunter

(38,328 posts)
19. It's difficult to offer a simple description.
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 09:15 PM
Mar 2015

Each little pixel on the Hubble has it's own properties, as do the methods of scanning each pixel. Extracting the most revealing signals from the noise is not a trivial process; exposures, filters, and analysis are all adjusted to hopefully answer the "question" the astronomer is asking. The telescope is a "camera" with more settings than any professional photographer of earthly landscapes or fashion models ever has to deal with.

Back when astronomy was a chemical photographic process it can be claimed it was "black and white." Each little grain of silver halide was either activated by photons or not. The picture truly was black or white at the microscopic level.



Photomicrograph of grain of
different photographic plates


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_grain


I still occasionally take photographs with film and develop it myself, but Kodak and other manufacturers stopped making film for astronomers in the early 'nineties.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
14. The one of the Milky Way's center might be the most striking, IMO.
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 10:12 AM
Mar 2015

Such a rich concentration of star clusters and gas clouds, and somewhere in the middle of it all, an almost unfathomably massive black hole - I'd love to know what the warped space and matter surrounding such an object would "look" like, even if the image may not make sense to the human eye.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
15. actually, it's not correct to say they are "black and white". Due to our limited perception of
Fri Mar 27, 2015, 04:55 PM
Mar 2015

electromagnetic radiation we perceive these objects as black and white but they are emitting radiation in a vast range of wavelengths we aren't equipped to see.

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