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jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 04:29 PM Jul 2015

Octopus's Garden? Underwater Greenhouses Thrive

As counter-intuitive ideas go, this one’s hard to beat: Instead of raising crops on land — where they’ve been growing for, you know, millions of years — how about growing them underwater, in the ocean?

It seems bonkers, but that’s exactly what’s happening off the coast of Italy at Nemo’s Garden, an experimental botanical facility in which fruits and vegetables are grown in balloon-like biospheres anchored to the sea floor.

Assembled by the Italian diving company Ocean Reef Group, the garden is made up of five structures that resemble old-fashioned diving bells. Air is trapped under a transparent dome suspended beneath the waves, with rings of shelving along the interior housing soil beds for fruits and vegetables.

The set-up has several advantages for the plants. The underwater temperature remains more or less constant, and water evaporation within the biosphere provides an atmosphere rich in humidity and carbon dioxide.

http://news.discovery.com/tech/biotechnology/octopuss-garden-underwater-greenhouses-thrive-150709.htm

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Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
1. What's the word I'm looking for?
Fri Jul 10, 2015, 08:15 PM
Jul 2015

Cost prohibitive?

It's a neat isea, also eliminates most pest problems, but putting on a diving suit to swim down to a hot little dome sounds like a nightmare. Also how do you move the crops in and out?

drm604

(16,230 posts)
3. Done commercially you might be able to achieve economies of scale.
Wed Jul 15, 2015, 10:33 PM
Jul 2015

You could probably automate routine tending of the plants, eliminating the need for regular dives. At harvest time, you allow the domes to surface, harvest and replant, then sink them again.

At first this struck me as silly, but the more I think about it, the more sense it makes.

You could grow year round in some areas. You could rotate planting times so that there are always domes ready to be harvested.

This would open up new acreage to farming (of course you could also do that with floating barges).

Pests would be much less of a problem. If you do get an infestation, you raise the infested dome, clean it out and disinfect everything, then replant.

One question I have; how do the plants get enough sunlight? Will the amount of light that gets through the water be enough?

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
4. It saves on real estate
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 02:10 AM
Jul 2015

that's about the only real benefit I can see, otherwise you could spend less energy with a regular greenhouse, even in extreme climates, I'd think. You'd still need air ventilation, and fresh water, which could be done with some form of local desalinization, but it's starting to add up fast, not to mention the specializations you'd need from workers.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
5. It would be very humid inside the dome, and humidity doesn't contain salt.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 10:57 AM
Jul 2015

Maybe there would be enough condensation to water the plants? I'm also not sure that you'd need to ventilate.

If you google "sealed terrarium" you'll find that it's possible to have plants thrive for years, even decades, in a completely sealed airtight environment. The plants recycle the existing air and water. The only input they need is light.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
6. That doesn't jive well with production
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 01:20 PM
Jul 2015

To get a yield you can't just have a slow burn closed system, and you're putting it under water, so you're cutting off the sunlight. Plus the plants that thrive in that environment are specific types, there are a lot that will just fail if not treated right.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
7. Obviously you'd only use plants that WOULD thrive in that environment.
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 03:50 PM
Jul 2015

I don't think anyone is suggesting that all farming be moved underwater.

I also wonder about the sunlight, but I have to believe that they've taken something as obvious as that into account. Maybe if it's just below the surface, or the very top is just above the surface, there's enough light.

But the idea does seem farfetched.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
8. The plants that would thrive aren't plants that you'd be growing as crops
Thu Jul 16, 2015, 04:41 PM
Jul 2015

And while they'd survive, it would be a slow growth, not pushing a crop for a season.

It sounds like solar freaking roadways. Cool idea, but the execution is lacking.

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
2. Wonderful! Hope to hear more about this.
Sat Jul 11, 2015, 02:45 PM
Jul 2015

They deserve a refreshing drink underwater after that!

Thank you.

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