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Matt Damon Wouldn't Really Last That Long on Mars (Original Post) LongTomH Nov 2015 OP
To be fair, Matt Damon didn't really go to Mars. Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #1
Were you the guy who stood up in the theater bvf Nov 2015 #2
The usher was pretty rough with me. nt Xipe Totec Nov 2015 #3
Big guy, too. Sorry I had to see that. bvf Nov 2015 #9
Yeah, but fewer people would have clicked if the headline were... thesquanderer Nov 2015 #24
Really great presentation in that clip. gvstn Nov 2015 #4
Nicely presented and very intersting. nt Nitram Nov 2015 #5
In real life... Jerry442 Nov 2015 #6
Yeah, but then Kirk could run as a Republican ... eppur_se_muova Nov 2015 #7
I don't know that I have criteria for how bvf Nov 2015 #10
re Captain Kirk SCantiGOP Nov 2015 #12
Admiral Kirk wouldn't have needed a girdle in real life--he'd be exercising regularly MADem Nov 2015 #17
er, i've seen a many an admiral... unblock Nov 2015 #21
Perhaps Matt Damon wouldn't have lived that long Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2015 #8
And Chuck Norris would have karate chopped the entire planet packman Nov 2015 #13
I did really enjoy the movie though :) Marrah_G Nov 2015 #11
I relish the thought of the 1% Entitled Elite Moving En Masse to Mars Demeter Nov 2015 #14
Kilo for kilo, landing people on Mars is a horrible science investment. hunter Nov 2015 #15
Interesting....good post.. AuntPatsy Nov 2015 #16
Hm. bvf Nov 2015 #18
^^THIS^^ (eom) R. P. McMurphy Nov 2015 #20
Rather like very affluent vacationers who climb Mt. Everest? "Because it's there?" hunter Nov 2015 #22
+1. nt bemildred Nov 2015 #19
Have you read the book? TNNurse Nov 2015 #23
 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
2. Were you the guy who stood up in the theater
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:13 PM
Nov 2015

halfway through the film and shouted, "Don't worry folks, it's only a movie!"?

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
24. Yeah, but fewer people would have clicked if the headline were...
Wed Nov 18, 2015, 12:44 PM
Nov 2015

Mark Watney Wouldn't Really Last That Long on Mars.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
6. In real life...
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:41 PM
Nov 2015

...Batman would be a deranged psychopath who would be apprehended in minutes.

Pretty Woman would be a psychological wreck with multiple STDs and drug dependencies.

Christian Grey would be a serial killer.

Captain Kirk would have been booted from Starfleet for insubordination.

In the meantime, let's enjoy the movie. Pass the popcorn.

eppur_se_muova

(36,281 posts)
7. Yeah, but then Kirk could run as a Republican ...
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 05:41 PM
Nov 2015

... and make up stories about all kinds of things he did that "of course StarFleet is gonna deny".

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
10. I don't know that I have criteria for how
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 11:04 PM
Nov 2015

"real science-y" I expect an enjoyable sci-fi film to be.

I guess if its plot is closer to what seems like real life (everybody knows there's no Batman) the more I expect in the way of verisimilitude.

But I like Batman.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
12. re Captain Kirk
Sat Nov 7, 2015, 10:43 PM
Nov 2015

I always thought that the first time it looked like we were facing almost certain death I would have led the mutiny to put Spock in charge.
I know there were multiple plots where it was Kirk's "human intuition" that saved the day, but who would you want making decisions if your survival was on the line?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
17. Admiral Kirk wouldn't have needed a girdle in real life--he'd be exercising regularly
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 03:25 AM
Nov 2015

to pass his fitness test!

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
14. I relish the thought of the 1% Entitled Elite Moving En Masse to Mars
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 12:16 PM
Nov 2015

to get away from the rest of us, our resources, labor and technology...to be pure!

hunter

(38,323 posts)
15. Kilo for kilo, landing people on Mars is a horrible science investment.
Sun Nov 8, 2015, 01:49 PM
Nov 2015

Especially as our robots and control technology become increasingly sophisticated.

If we humans ever do occupy lands beyond earth (which seems very unlikely) it will be by some science and technology yet undiscovered. (Anti-gravity, A Wrinkle in Time tesseract, that sort of thing...)

Otherwise outer space is a realm for our intellectual descendants, engineered creatures who may be human-like or not, who are fully adapted to environments deadly to natural humans.

Witnessing how we treat the other intelligent beings we share this planet with, even among our own species, I'm not sure we are worthy of occupying any more lands, not here on earth, and not in space. If some catastrophe on earth wipes us out, especially a catastrophe of our own making, then oh well, that's how the rocks bounce. The universe is very large, our human civilization is very small. The vast majority of earthly species are extinct. Join the club.

Philosophically, I think our manned space programs are in essence the last gasp of our ancient anthropocentric religions, in which earth is considered the center of the universe, and mankind some god's greatest creation.

I'll tell you what, if you enjoy science fiction, the earth is crawling with alien biologist grad students and a quite a few professors too. They're focus of study is not humans. We are boring to them. Throw down a few automated sensors, the data can be collected automatically, and sent home to be studied at leisure.

Nope, most of the space alien biologists living here on Earth are studying beetles and they can't even be bothered to say "hello" to us. We may even be annoying to them.

The Creator would appear as endowed with a passion for stars, on the one hand, and for beetles on the other, for the simple reason that there are nearly 300,000 species of beetle known, and perhaps more, as compared with somewhat less than 9,000 species of birds and a little over 10,000 species of mammals. Beetles are actually more numerous than the species of any other insect order. That kind of thing is characteristic of nature.

--J.B.S. Haldane


Read up on Haldane if you'd like an unsanitized view of 20th century science, politics, and philosophy. It was messy.

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
18. Hm.
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 04:44 AM
Nov 2015
Philosophically, I think our manned space programs are in essence the last gasp of our ancient anthropocentric religions, in which earth is considered the center of the universe, and mankind some god's greatest creation.


No, don't think so. If my great-grandkids can vacation on or otherwise visit Mars, I want that world for them, for them to see what humanity became capable of during their lifetimes.

Its exactly because I celebrate our planet not being the center of the universe that I think this.

hunter

(38,323 posts)
22. Rather like very affluent vacationers who climb Mt. Everest? "Because it's there?"
Mon Nov 9, 2015, 05:10 PM
Nov 2015


http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22680192

That's a strange religion.

I hope my great grandkids have someplace comfortable to live, enough to eat, and someone to love.

Should they learn how to talk to Orcas in the wild, adapt communities of all species to a rapidly changing natural environment, or do some kind of cutting edge medicine or science, that would thrill me.

Landing human beings on Mars is simply an expression of the human ego and self-centeredness.

Hey! Look at Me!

There's no difference between "God says I'm Special!" and "We say we're Special!"

In fact they are EXACTLY the same thing, which ought to be especially obvious to any atheist.


TNNurse

(6,929 posts)
23. Have you read the book?
Tue Nov 10, 2015, 09:25 AM
Nov 2015

We loved it, laughed out loud at times.

Since when did movies about science fiction need to be scientifically accurate? Does the general population need to be re-educated on the meaning of the word fiction?? There are lots of examples to help them. Ben Carson's autobiography comes to mind.

Am planning to see the movie soon.

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