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kristopher

(29,798 posts)
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 03:57 PM Aug 2016

Alien hunters are fixated on a mysterious star, which refuses to reveal its secrets

Alien hunters are fixated on a mysterious star, which refuses to reveal its secrets

Twinkle, twinkle... (NASA/JPL-Caltech)

WRITTEN BY Akshat Rathi

A mysterious star has attracted global attention since its strange properties came to light in October last year. The star showed an odd pattern of dimming that could not be explained by any known natural phenomenon. Among the hypotheses that has yet to be disproved: the star is surrounded by an alien megastructure.

Such extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, as the famous astronomer Carl Sagan put it. Ever since Tabetha Boyajian of Yale University found KIC 8462852, or Tabby’s star (named after her), professional scientists and amateur astronomers have been pointing their telescopes towards a small part of the night sky to collect more data.

A flurry of studies published over the past year show that the more data scientists collect, the stranger the star’s tale becomes. Every attempt to rule out the alien-megastructure hypothesis is met with more data that stops it from being discarded.

The sign that started it all
NASA launched the Kepler mission in 2009. Its aim was to search for planets by fixing its gaze at a tiny patch in the sky. When it spots a star’s light suddenly dim, it means that a planet has crossed between the star and the satellite. The amount of dimming is related to how big the planet is.

This is monotonous work. NASA created software to interpret the dimming—planets orbiting a star dim the light at regular intervals, so the agency’s software flagged these episodes to scientists to confirm the readings. A contingent at Yale, meanwhile...

More at http://qz.com/752783/alien-hunters-are-fixated-on-a-mysterious-star-which-refuses-to-reveal-its-secrets/
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Alien hunters are fixated on a mysterious star, which refuses to reveal its secrets (Original Post) kristopher Aug 2016 OP
Meanwhile, a race of hyper intelligent cephalopods Warpy Aug 2016 #1
That has already been ruled out... kristopher Aug 2016 #4
Easy to exclude that Loki Liesmith Aug 2016 #6
Ringworld??? lapfog_1 Aug 2016 #2
Ringworlds are hard to stabilize Loki Liesmith Aug 2016 #7
Just read Ringworld BB1 Aug 2016 #9
That pesky Maud'Dib... wcmagumba Aug 2016 #11
Right up there with Trumps tax returns in revealing secrets. gordianot Aug 2016 #3
The Universe is unimaginably huge, and endlessly fascinating. I love this stuff. Warren DeMontague Aug 2016 #5
A very interesting case! longship Aug 2016 #8
It's inner system bombarded by comets? Buckeye_Democrat Aug 2016 #10
Hypothesis: What if the brightness-fluctuation is an alien Morse-code? DetlefK Aug 2016 #12

Warpy

(111,336 posts)
1. Meanwhile, a race of hyper intelligent cephalopods
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 04:05 PM
Aug 2016

running a telescope in orbit around Tabby's Star are looking at the rhythmic, rapid dimming caused by the larger objects in Earth's inner asteroid belt and are wondering about the race that could have constructed such a large megastructure around their star.

Whatever it is, it's most likely not aliens.

kristopher

(29,798 posts)
4. That has already been ruled out...
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 04:17 PM
Aug 2016
Discovered by citizen scientists scouring data publicly available through the crowdsourced Planet Hunters effort, these dimming events kicked off a years-long effort by a team led by Tabetha Boyajian at Yale to figure out what was going on with the star. After working with NASA to rule out technical issues that might have caused the oddities, they scrutinized the star itself for evidence that it might be unusually young, as very young stars have disks of warm dust, gas, and rocks orbiting them that can create all sorts of strange behavior.

The star proved to be completely pedestrian: Not only does it appear to be mature and lack any disk of material, it showed no other signs of peculiarity, either. If not for the Kepler data, the star would attract no attention at all...
http://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2016/05/the-most-mysterious-star-in-our-galaxy/482397/


It isn't a large planet either.


It was the chart above that caught amateur astronomers’ attention. The chart shows data collected over 1,500 days of observation (showed on the x-axis). Each dip on the y-axis is a dimming event. Although these dips would normally indicate the presence of a planet, the weird thing about KIC 8462852’s dimming is how big it is. At its largest, it shows the star dimming by more than 22%, which is 10 times bigger than the dimming observed by a Jupiter-sized planet crossing a similar-sized star. Thus, it seems likely that the dimming wasn’t caused by a planet, but something else...

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
6. Easy to exclude that
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 05:27 PM
Aug 2016

By isotopy of asteroid belt and infrared emission spectrum.

Whatever is orbiting Tabby's Star ain't asteroids.

BB1

(798 posts)
9. Just read Ringworld
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 06:38 PM
Aug 2016

and I thought it was pretty awesome. Quite some writers took a page out of that book and made it their own, I surmise.

On other forums I some quite a lot of references to a possible Dyson Sphere. Wouldn't that be something? To top things off, they might have a kwisatz haderach...

wcmagumba

(2,890 posts)
11. That pesky Maud'Dib...
Tue Aug 9, 2016, 10:23 PM
Aug 2016


Here is a neat sketch done by the talented Tomas Overbai.
It's of the legendary Paul Atreides.

gordianot

(15,243 posts)
3. Right up there with Trumps tax returns in revealing secrets.
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 04:07 PM
Aug 2016

Just kidding science in the search is much more important.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
5. The Universe is unimaginably huge, and endlessly fascinating. I love this stuff.
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 04:56 PM
Aug 2016

Even if it doesn't pan out, the fact that we're looking, that at this point we're even able to look, or to start looking-- really cool.



longship

(40,416 posts)
8. A very interesting case!
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 06:04 PM
Aug 2016

Actually incredible. What is it?

We don't know. But whatever it is, it is bound to be fascinating.



Buckeye_Democrat

(14,856 posts)
10. It's inner system bombarded by comets?
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 08:55 PM
Aug 2016

Comets of our solar system can sometimes have gigantic comas, larger in area than the Sun.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
12. Hypothesis: What if the brightness-fluctuation is an alien Morse-code?
Wed Aug 10, 2016, 06:25 AM
Aug 2016

1. Imagine: An alien species with the technology to move stuff in front of their sun to partially block out the light it gives off.

2. Why is interstellar radio-communication a bad idea? Because the signal-strength will drop with 1/distance^2 and it would take a huge amount of energy to send a signal that is strong enough to be readable a few light years away.

3. What is the biggest energy-source in a solar system? The sun.



Combine these 3 things and you get an alien species that uses its sunlight to send messages over interstellar distances.



Now you are saying: Why would somebody send a message that takes decades and centuries to transmit in full?
Possible answer: The aliens live longer than we do. We are carbon-based life-forms. Scientists have already calculated that a life-form with a silicon-based biochemistry would have a slower metabolism than we do: They would grow slower, heal wounds slower, live longer.

And a message that takes 100 years to send is NOTHING compared to the time-scales of interstellar travel and the life-time of a civilization. (With current propulsion-technology, it would take several thousand years to travel to Proxima Centauri, which is just a measly 5 light-years away.)
Hell, messages in a bottle take years on planet Earth! 100 years is nothing!

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