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elleng

(130,916 posts)
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 04:38 PM Jan 2017

A Genetic Fix to Put the Taste Back in Tomatoes

'Over the decades, taste has drained out of supermarket tomatoes.

Harry J. Klee, a professor of horticultural sciences at the University of Florida, thinks he can put it back in within a couple of years.

In this week’s issue of the journal Science, Dr. Klee and his colleagues describe flavor chemicals that are deficient in most modern varieties of tomatoes. In addition, they have located genes that produce these chemicals, and identified heirloom and wild varieties of tomatoes that possess better versions of these genes.

Work has begun to breed a hybrid that restores much of the flavor yet retains the traits — large size, sturdy enough for shipping — that growers need to succeed.'>>>

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/27/science/better-tasting-tomatoes-genes.html?

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elleng

(130,916 posts)
2. Hey, trostsky,
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 04:50 PM
Jan 2017

look at THIS reply, to same post in Cooking and Baking:

5. I have had good success in my area planting Russian tomatoes.

The version is called black Krim, and it is from Crimea. The plant produces well into October/November in the Chicago area and the taste is quite good.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1157&pid=62568

Arkansas Granny

(31,517 posts)
4. Most tomatoes grown for supermarkets are chosen mainly for their ability to stand up to shipping,
Mon Jan 30, 2017, 04:59 PM
Jan 2017

not for flavor. On top of that, most tomatoes are picked green so they have a longer shelf life and never get the chance to develop the full bodied taste that comes from a vine ripened tomato.

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
11. Yes, they were modified for shipping, but
Wed Feb 15, 2017, 04:04 PM
Feb 2017

Also makes it easier to pick mechanically when the tomato is a uniform shape and hard as rock. I never buy tomatoes from the supermarket. I can get the real ones from May till about September, and there is nothing better.

NickB79

(19,245 posts)
8. Heirlooms taste great, but can be a real PITA if you don't have optimum conditions
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 06:39 PM
Feb 2017

I had great results for several years with Abe Lincoln heirlooms, until late blight found my garden and wiped them out one year. I worked up another garden plot on the opposite side of my yard a hundred yards away, and a couple years later the blight made it over there. It took a couple of years before I found another heirloom that yielded as well in my soil and was blight resistant.

Other varieties have had cracking issues when the moisture levels are less than optimal, or had fruit that could be was under-ripe Friday, perfectly ripe Saturday and Sunday, and a soggy mess by Tuesday! Clearly not acceptable for commercial applications.

Canoe52

(2,948 posts)
9. Agree to all you said, but 4 or 5 different heirlooms sliced up
Sat Feb 4, 2017, 02:33 PM
Feb 2017

on a plate is pure heaven. So many different flavors dancing around on your tongue...

NickB79

(19,245 posts)
7. I grew his Garden Gem and Garden Treasure hybrids last year
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 06:33 PM
Feb 2017

You can order seed here for a donation to their research program: http://hos.ufl.edu/kleeweb/newcultivars.html

All in all, I thought both varieties had very good flavor, though I preferred the Garden Treasure simply for the fact it was larger in size. I saved seed and plan on working with it for the next few years to develop my own stabilized lineage like I did with some watermelon hybrids I created a few years ago (ever seen a Sugar Baby watermelon crossed with a Moon and Stars watermelon?).

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