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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:47 PM Oct 2017

Universe shouldnt exist, CERN physicists conclude


One of the great mysteries of modern physics is why antimatter did not destroy the universe at the beginning of time.

To explain it, physicists suppose there must be some difference between matter and antimatter – apart from electric charge. Whatever that difference is, it’s not in their magnetism, it seems.

Physicists at CERN in Switzerland have made the most precise measurement ever of the magnetic moment of an anti-proton – a number that measures how a particle reacts to magnetic force – and found it to be exactly the same as that of the proton but with opposite sign. The work is described in Nature.

“All of our observations find a complete symmetry between matter and antimatter, which is why the universe should not actually exist,” says Christian Smorra, a physicist at CERN’s Baryon–Antibaryon Symmetry Experiment (BASE) collaboration. “An asymmetry must exist here somewhere but we simply do not understand where the difference is.”

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https://cosmosmagazine.com/physics/universe-shouldn-t-exist-cern-physicists-conclude
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lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
1. if only there was an anti-matter galaxy that our galaxy could crash into
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:49 PM
Oct 2017

Now that would be a pockyclispe.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
3. Since we live in a multi-verse, you are probably correct.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 12:59 PM
Oct 2017

In one universe, the cat dies, in another the cat lives, in another there is no cat but the scientists Mom's are all yelling at them to go get a real job, in another universe nobody cares about the cat.

there..I've solved it. Now back to lunch.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
5. Maybe it doesnt
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 01:41 PM
Oct 2017

Ooooooh...

(One thing is for sure.. I can't put an apostrophe in doesn't in the subject line.)

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
8. I couldn't get it to work on that reply.
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 03:20 PM
Oct 2017

Now I can. Weird. Note the edits on that post. Several times I tried it with and without Javascript. Maybe it was a momentary chance meeting with anti-apostrophe.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
15. Now don't you think that's a little far fetched?
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 05:24 PM
Oct 2017

Although it sounds like fun trying. I'll get the cardboard box.


longship

(40,416 posts)
6. Terrible headline!
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 02:17 PM
Oct 2017

There is a special circle of Hell for headline writers like that.

And particle physics, and quantum field theory in general, is all about symmetries, and broken symmetries.

I seem to remember that there was a broken symmetry recently discovered in particle/anti-particle interactions. Sorry, just cannot remember what that was.

Regardless, obviously the universe exists, so there has to be a broken symmetry somewhere.


defacto7

(13,485 posts)
11. Yeah, I can now...
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 03:30 PM
Oct 2017

But I had 3 edits trying to put one in to no avail. Apostrophe, meet anti-apostrophe.

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
13. Well, at least the part of the universe with orange skin and a comb-over/toupee sitting on a...
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 04:58 PM
Oct 2017

...on a black hole where no light ever enters or leaves.

Other than that, it does seem that the universe does exist.

struggle4progress

(118,293 posts)
17. Don't listen to them, Ms Universe! I myself just hate it when people tell me
Tue Oct 24, 2017, 05:57 PM
Oct 2017

what I should or should not do, and I bet you feel the same way! It's just fine with me that you exist -- in fact, I'm glad you do! -- and I think it's just silly for anyone to tell you that you shouldn't!

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
19. Ms Universe?
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 05:22 PM
Oct 2017

Does Trump still own the rights to that? (this is the closest I could find to a trump emoji)

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
21. Fake News!!
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 06:01 PM
Oct 2017

I just tweeted him, and he assured me that he did in fact own the entire universe. And he even ended his tweet with "Believe me."

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
18. Antimatter Angst: The Universe Shouldn't Exist
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 04:58 PM
Oct 2017

By Ian O'Neill, Astroengine.com | October 27, 2017 04:36pm ET


The universe shouldn't exist, according to new ultra-precise measurements of anti-protons.

But the fact that I'm typing this article and you're reading it, however, suggests that we are here, so something must be awry with our understanding of the physics the universe is governed by.

The universe is the embodiment of an epic battle between matter and antimatter that occurred immediately after the Big Bang, 13.82 billion years ago. Evidently, matter won — because there are galaxies, stars, planets, you, me, hamsters, long walks on sandy beaches and beer — but how matter won is one of the biggest mysteries hanging over physics. [The Strangest Things in Space]

It is predicted that equal amounts of matter and antimatter were produced in the primordial universe (a basic prediction by the Standard Model of physics), but if that's the case, all matter in the universe should have been annihilated when it came into contact with its antimatter counterpart — a Big Bang followed by a big disappointment.

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