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nitpicker

(7,153 posts)
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 06:40 AM Jan 2018

Chinas moon mission to boldly go a step further

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/dec/31/china-mission-to-far-side-of-the-moon-space-discovery

China’s moon mission to boldly go a step further

Stuart Clark

Sun 31 Dec ‘17 06.59 GMT Last modified on Sun 31 Dec ‘17 20.50 GMT

This time next year, there may be a new world leader in lunar exploration. If all goes according to plan, China will have done something no other space-faring superpower has been able to do: land on the far side of the moon. China is rocketing ahead with its plans for lunar exploration. In 2018, they will launch a pair of missions known collectively as Chang’e 4. It is the fourth mission in a series named after the Chinese moon goddess.

The first component of Chang’e 4 is scheduled to lift off in June. It will be a relay satellite stationed some 60,000km behind the moon and will provide a communications link between Earth and the lunar far side. Once this link is established, it will allow China to send the second part of the mission: a lander to the far side’s surface.
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Nobody has landed on the far side of the moon, mainly because of the communications difficulty. Yet the scientific payoff is huge. Being in the shadow of the moon allows stray radio signals from Earth to be blocked so the view of the radio universe is unparalleled.

Heino Falcke, Radboud University, Nijmegen, is hoping to take full advantage of this by supplying a radio telescope to the Chinese mission. His aim is to test how easy it will be to pick up signals from the early universe before there were any stars. Astronomers call this the dark ages because nothing was emitting light. But hydrogen atoms were giving out radio waves, which Falcke hopes to catch. He designed the instrument for a lunar mission that the European Space Agency (ESA) considered building about five years ago. When that spacecraft was put on hold, it looked as if his plans were scuppered. But when the king of Holland visited China as part of a trade delegation, the idea was revived.
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Chinas moon mission to boldly go a step further (Original Post) nitpicker Jan 2018 OP
What a fascinating endeavor! Holland/China interesting. RestoreAmerica2020 Jan 2018 #1
One would then assume the lander will be nuclear powered... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2018 #2
Just because the lander is on the far side that does not mean it will always be in darkness VMA131Marine Jan 2018 #3
Also, you can't have a geostationary satellite orbiting on the far side of the moon caraher Jan 2018 #5
I was thinking a geostationary orbit with the moon itself. KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2018 #6
I'm not sure it would work caraher Jan 2018 #7
Godspeed. GeorgeGist Jan 2018 #4

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,495 posts)
2. One would then assume the lander will be nuclear powered...
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 09:39 AM
Jan 2018

much like our deep space probes. The comm relay would be much like what we do every day from mars.

The ideas of placing a radio telescope on the moon's backside is interesting, although I wonder if that could be done using a geostationary satellite positioned on the backside. However, that would also require a second relay sat.

Thanks for posting this story!

VMA131Marine

(4,149 posts)
3. Just because the lander is on the far side that does not mean it will always be in darkness
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 09:57 AM
Jan 2018

Everywhere on the moon gets 14 days of daylight, followed by 14 days of darkness. If it is not possible to provide solar-recharged battery storage for the hours of darkness a plutonium RTG will be needed.

caraher

(6,279 posts)
5. Also, you can't have a geostationary satellite orbiting on the far side of the moon
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 10:36 PM
Jan 2018

The orbital period of anything orbiting Earth at the Moon's distance (or further) will be basically a month or longer.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,495 posts)
6. I was thinking a geostationary orbit with the moon itself.
Mon Jan 1, 2018, 11:43 PM
Jan 2018

Is that even possible?

I'm obviously not a rocket guy, but this is very interesting.

caraher

(6,279 posts)
7. I'm not sure it would work
Tue Jan 2, 2018, 02:03 AM
Jan 2018

Sorry, I thought you meant Earth because the "geo" in "geostationary" implies Earth. More generally the term would be a "synchronous" orbit.

I think you'd want to use the Earth-Moon L2 point. That's going to be closer to the lunar surface than a satellite whose orbit matched the 27 day lunar rotation period (and I suspect the synchronous orbit would be pretty heavily perturbed by Earth!).

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