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Judi Lynn

(160,630 posts)
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 12:10 AM Jun 2018

Stonehenge Builders Used Pythagoras' Theorem Way Before The Philosopher's Birth: Giants, Aliens, Oth

Stonehenge Builders Used Pythagoras' Theorem Way Before The Philosopher’s Birth: Giants, Aliens, Other Theories On Its Origin
22 June 2018, 10:41 pm EDT By Rubi Valdez Tech Times

Experts, who are studying the formation of Britain's Stonehenge, claimed that those who built it had knowledge of Pythagoras' theorem even 2,000 years before he was born.

The newly published Megalith book reinvestigated the geometry of ancient Neolithic structures in England. One of its contributors, Robin Heath, an astrology researcher and expert, said that the rectangle of four Sarsen stones would form a perfect Pythagorean right triangle when split in half.

"People often think of our ancestors as rough cavemen but they were also sophisticated astronomers. They were applying Pythagorean geometry over 2000 years before Pythagoras was born," said contributor and book editor John Martineau, who also authored a number of astrology and history books.

Theories On The Origins Of Stonehenge
Archaeologists are long fascinated as to how the Stonehenge was built, but one of the most popular theories states that aliens provided the technology to build it. Some of the stones weigh up to 50 tons, and to manually carry it would be an impossible human feat.

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Stonehenge Builders Used Pythagoras' Theorem Way Before The Philosopher's Birth: Giants, Aliens, Oth (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jun 2018 OP
Bit of a stretch Ron Obvious Jun 2018 #1
Sorry. n/t Judi Lynn Jun 2018 #2
Any carpenter worth their salt uses the 3 4 5 triangle to ensure 90 degree corners Canoe52 Jun 2018 #3
Actually, a high percentage of those carpenters are probably MineralMan Jun 2018 #11
An astrology researcher! and expert! eShirl Jun 2018 #4
That kills the article. DavidDvorkin Jun 2018 #9
Babylonian clay tablets reflected Pythagorean theorem too Cicada Jun 2018 #5
Also well known to ancient Egyptians and Mesopotamians, Indians and Chinese. eppur_se_muova Jun 2018 #6
👏 YES! Duppers Jun 2018 #7
The Telegraph has some more on this. Jim__ Jun 2018 #8
Heath "has described the ratio between the solar and lunar year .. and the lunar month .. struggle4progress Jun 2018 #10

Canoe52

(2,949 posts)
3. Any carpenter worth their salt uses the 3 4 5 triangle to ensure 90 degree corners
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 05:22 AM
Jun 2018

but they don’t have a clue that they are using the Pythagorean formula, so the pi statement by the gentleman above doesn’t follow logically.

MineralMan

(146,331 posts)
11. Actually, a high percentage of those carpenters are probably
Tue Jun 26, 2018, 12:11 PM
Jun 2018

aware of that formula. I learned it in junior high school. Most carpenters have also gone to school. A lot of carpenters even know some basic trigonometry, which is also taught in high school. "How long do those rafters need to be?" A $15 calculator will provide the answer in a second, but an old book on carpentry I have, from the 19th century, has tables in it that let you calculate rafter length using trig.



Cicada

(4,533 posts)
5. Babylonian clay tablets reflected Pythagorean theorem too
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 08:28 AM
Jun 2018

Their astronomers predicted future astronomical events in calculations which required the theorem, also thousands of years earlier. When the library at Alexandria was burned it made the clay tablets permanent, so we can read them today.

eppur_se_muova

(36,290 posts)
6. Also well known to ancient Egyptians and Mesopotamians, Indians and Chinese.
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 12:23 PM
Jun 2018

The news here is not that this occurred "before Pythagoras" but before contact with more settled, literate, "civilized" (in the sense of having permanent cities) societies. Which just shows we need to fine-tune our concept of what "primitive" means. (Literally, it means "first, original", not "ignorant".)

Pythagoras codified, and presumably proved, the theorem which bears his name, but that doesn't imply he was the first to know of it. Don't think we need an astrology "expert" (oxymoron alert!) to tell us that.

Jim__

(14,083 posts)
8. The Telegraph has some more on this.
Sat Jun 23, 2018, 03:57 PM
Jun 2018

From The Telegraph:

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The new book, published today to coincide with today’s summer solstice, shows how within one of Stonehenge’s earliest incarnations, dating from 2750BC, there lies a rectangle of four Sarsen stones which when split in half diagonally forms a perfect Pythagorean 5:12:13 triangle.

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I'm not quite sure what to make of this, from The Telegraph article:

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Robin Heath claims important sites in Britain are also linked by triangles Credit: Robin Heath


struggle4progress

(118,350 posts)
10. Heath "has described the ratio between the solar and lunar year .. and the lunar month ..
Mon Jun 25, 2018, 12:40 AM
Jun 2018

as being identical to the ratio between the English foot and the megalithic yard" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Heath

When people make claims like this, I file them with the pyramidiots and pay them no further attention

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