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Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 03:29 PM Oct 2018

Telescopes pick up huge number of unexplained signals coming from alien galaxies


The blasts of radio waves are still unexplained – with some blaming extraterrestrial intelligent life

Andrew Griffin @_andrew_griffin
1 hour ago

Telescopes have picked up a huge number of mysterious signals coming from deep in space, Australian researchers have announced.

The radio telescopes have nearly doubled the number of the known “fast radio bursts” – bright flashes of radio waves that make their way to Earth from deep space.

And the signals represent the closest and brightest of the bursts that have ever been found.

Fast radio bursts are one of the most mysterious phenomena in the universe. They are blasts of incredible energy – equivalent to the amount released by the Sun in 80 years – that last for just a moment, and come from a mysterious source.

More:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/frb-fast-radio-bursts-space-alien-life-proof-extra-terrestrial-telescope-nasa-galaxy-a8578011.html
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Telescopes pick up huge number of unexplained signals coming from alien galaxies (Original Post) Judi Lynn Oct 2018 OP
It is future survivors of Earth's melt-down sending messages through time... Moostache Oct 2018 #1
If future humanity is warning the present I suspect the warnings will go unheeded. WheelWalker Oct 2018 #7
If those signals are ETI comms they are very energetically wasteful Loki Liesmith Oct 2018 #2
Sounds like a natural phenomenon exboyfil Oct 2018 #5
I agree but I'll hope otherwise Loki Liesmith Oct 2018 #8
Unfortunately its a futile hope as no truly interstellar civilization is likely cstanleytech Oct 2018 #13
If the civilization is like ours I'd agree Loki Liesmith Oct 2018 #16
They're from the Emperor, Ming, The Merciless." 3Hotdogs Oct 2018 #3
Only Dr. Hans Zarkoff, formerly at NASA, has provided any explanation... Moostache Oct 2018 #9
What I find interesting is that no Type III civilizations exboyfil Oct 2018 #4
Or technological civilizations are inherently unstable and prone to self-destruction... Moostache Oct 2018 #10
would we necessarily observe such a civilization? qazplm135 Oct 2018 #12
Depends on the material used to construct the dyson sphere plus where it is located. cstanleytech Oct 2018 #14
That much energy sounds a lot like something blowing up. TreasonousBastard Oct 2018 #6
That or some sort of merger. cstanleytech Oct 2018 #15
Spooky energy at a distance. Nt BootinUp Oct 2018 #11
They're reports of sexual misconduct by prominent Republicans. (n/t) Jim Lane Oct 2018 #17

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
1. It is future survivors of Earth's melt-down sending messages through time...
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 03:31 PM
Oct 2018

They are saying: "STOP believing the lying politicians and START believing the scientists or you're all doomed..."

Or maybe its something else....LOL!

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
13. Unfortunately its a futile hope as no truly interstellar civilization is likely
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 05:08 PM
Oct 2018

to use any form of radio for interstellar communication as it would just be to slow to be worthwhile.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
16. If the civilization is like ours I'd agree
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 05:26 PM
Oct 2018

But say it’s like that of the Scrambler’s in Peter Watts’ “Blindsight”, an intelligent but unconscious superorganism that operates on galactic timescales. Slow communication works for it/them because it/they is/are like a slow growing infection of adjacent star systems.

Fun stuff

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
9. Only Dr. Hans Zarkoff, formerly at NASA, has provided any explanation...
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 04:02 PM
Oct 2018



What do you mean? "Flash Gordon approaching"?

exboyfil

(17,863 posts)
4. What I find interesting is that no Type III civilizations
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 03:40 PM
Oct 2018

have been observed to this point. These would be ones that would be noticed because they harvest a significant portion of their star's energy.

That would be my bet for our first verification of alien technological life. We haven't looked at all 300 billion or so galaxies but each one of those galaxies represents about 300 billion stars. If not a single one made it to Type III, then I think technological life must be exceedingly rare.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
10. Or technological civilizations are inherently unstable and prone to self-destruction...
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 04:10 PM
Oct 2018

That and the temporal overlap required for us to be in the right place, observing the right star, at the right time to measure a civilization in that specific location is vanishingly small as well!

Say a civilization arose 4 billion years ago but was close to us, say 1 billion light years away (close by cosmic scales, lol), hit its peak 3.5 billion years ago and flamed out into extinction 3 billion years ago...the signals and "proof" of that civilization could have zipped right past the Earth while out ancestors were still eking out existence in shallow salt pools...never to be seen or received by us at all, especially if they stopped transmitting 3 billion years ago...

Humanity is on a collision course with extinction right now. We steadfastly refuse to do anything to mitigate or prevent catastrophic climate change and we show absolutely no innate ability to do so as a species. The effects won't hit everyone equally or at the same time, but by the time the assholes in power wake up and realize this, the damage will be irreversible and there will already be billions displaced, fighting for life or dead.

That may or may not happen everywhere life arises, evolves and develops technology...but on our current Venn diagram of known civilizations and suicidal/stupid civilizations, there is a 1-to-1 overlap...

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
12. would we necessarily observe such a civilization?
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 05:07 PM
Oct 2018

If it's an already created Dyson sphere for example, we wouldn't see it, and the gravity of one star in another galaxy is not going to be noticeable from where we are.

Wouldn't we have to more or less catch them mid-sphere creation to see it?

I still wonder if we aren't one of the first civilizations. You'd need a second or third iteration of a star in an area to have all the metals and elements necessary for life. That takes billions of years. Then you need billions of years to get to highly organized life one would think.

A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon it adds up in a 13+ billion year old universe.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
14. Depends on the material used to construct the dyson sphere plus where it is located.
Wed Oct 10, 2018, 05:12 PM
Oct 2018

If its in our galaxy for example but directly across from us on the other side we might not necessarily see it.

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