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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 03:35 PM Jun 2012

The Humans With Super Human Vision

An unknown number of women may perceive 
millions of colors invisible to the rest of us. One British scientist is trying to track them down and understand their extraordinary power of sight.
by Veronique Greenwood

An average human, utterly unremarkable in every way, can 
perceive a million different colors. Vermilion, puce, cerulean, periwinkle, chartreuse—we have thousands of words for them, but mere language can never capture our extraordinary range of hues. Our powers of color vision derive from cells in our eyes called cones, three types in all, each triggered by different wavelengths of light. Every moment our eyes are open, those three flavors of cone fire off messages to the brain. The brain then combines the signals to produce the sensation we call color.

Vision is complex, but the calculus of color is strangely simple: Each cone confers the ability to distinguish around a hundred shades, so the total number of combinations is at least 1003, or a million. Take one cone away—go from being what scientists call a trichromat to a dichromat—and the number of possible combinations drops a factor of 100, to 10,000. Almost all other mammals, including dogs and New World monkeys, are dichromats. The richness of the world we see is rivaled only by that of birds and some insects, which also perceive the ultraviolet part of the spectrum.

Researchers suspect, though, that some people see even more. Living among us are people with four cones, who might experience a range of colors invisible to the rest. It’s possible these so-called tetrachromats see a hundred million colors, with each familiar hue fracturing into a hundred more subtle shades for which there are no names, no paint swatches. And because perceiving color is a personal experience, they would have no way of knowing they see far beyond what we consider the limits of human vision.

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http://discovermagazine.com/2012/jul-aug/06-humans-with-super-human-vision

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The Humans With Super Human Vision (Original Post) n2doc Jun 2012 OP
It explains why Mom was so good in choosing socks, I could never match socks gordianot Jun 2012 #1
Here is a graph. Swede Jun 2012 #2
Strawberry and magenta Confusious Jul 2012 #25
I'm the opposite... I'm colorblind... 6502 Jul 2012 #29
I would think it would be fairly easy to find such people Silent3 Jun 2012 #3
Some fighter pilots such as Chuck Yeager were know to have superior vision. It might be worthwhile AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #4
As I understand it, only women can have tetrachromacy. laconicsax Jun 2012 #6
Sharpness and colour perception are determined by different mechanisms Posteritatis Jun 2012 #19
The tetrachromats would all be women. Geoff R. Casavant Jun 2012 #5
I want to see into the ultraviolet, dammit! laconicsax Jun 2012 #7
Actually, I've heard that some people do see into the near ultraviolet. Silent3 Jun 2012 #10
Because you'll end up looking like this Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #16
I'm pretty sure he only has monochromatic vision. n/t laconicsax Jun 2012 #17
He was going for a shell and missed that too Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #18
Yeah, white and non-white. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #31
He has optical rectitus. chknltl Jul 2012 #26
Just for fun, try taking this color test PADemD Jun 2012 #8
I scored 102 Bradical79 Jun 2012 #13
That's hard! I missed four. knitter4democracy Jun 2012 #14
I scored 4...much better then I thought I would do Marrah_G Jun 2012 #15
Woo! Scored 3! laconicsax Jun 2012 #21
174? WTF? NickB79 Jun 2012 #23
I scored an 8, which ain't bad, I guess. nt Nay Jul 2012 #27
That's the same test they had over at Huffington post last week. Ganja Ninja Jul 2012 #30
109 for me n/t guardian Jul 2012 #32
It looks like the cone for red is highly polymorphic. Jim__ Jun 2012 #9
I think it would depend on the mutation. laconicsax Jun 2012 #11
My thought is that the mutation that causes color blindness in men probably peaks ... Jim__ Jun 2012 #12
Our red-green discrimination is an evolutionary kludge. hunter Jun 2012 #24
RadioLab just did a show on this... Javaman Jun 2012 #20
This explains how my wife can see through my bullshit. Glassunion Jun 2012 #22
And that's no Bull, . . . Penn ashling Jul 2012 #28

6502

(249 posts)
29. I'm the opposite... I'm colorblind...
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 08:13 AM
Jul 2012

... so when I look at this or other similar charts, I see the same bands of colors repeating 2-3 times.

My vision reports 2 identical blue sections with an extra 3rd one of a different shade.

A repeating pattern from Salmon to Sea Foam.

And the reds fall closer to black and deep grays.

Silent3

(15,212 posts)
3. I would think it would be fairly easy to find such people
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 04:54 PM
Jun 2012

The article says, "...because perceiving color is a personal experience, (the tetrachromats) would have no way of knowing they see far beyond what we consider the limits of human vision.

I don't think that's at all true. Tetrachromats should be hugely dissatisfied with computer monitors, color television, color printing, color photographs -- our entire world of tri-stimulus color media. All such media wouldn't look just a little bit off, they would be grossly inaccurate in their reproduction of many of colors these people could see directly with their eyes.

I think their own dissatisfaction would stand out pretty clearly when they hear other people praising the quality of a new TV or a photograph that looks crappy to their eyes, or when they look at at touched-up paint jobs that everyone else thinks looks good, but where they see very clear and messy blobs of mismatched color.

EDIT: On further reading the article, is seems like the difference in color perception needs training otherwise those possessing this ability ignore it. It could also be that the brain doesn't typically process the signals from the mutant cones as a separate channel of information from the information coming from close-but-not-quite-the-same cones.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
4. Some fighter pilots such as Chuck Yeager were know to have superior vision. It might be worthwhile
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:41 PM
Jun 2012

for the scientists to research whether any of the current fighter pilots are tetrachromats.

 

laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
6. As I understand it, only women can have tetrachromacy.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:01 PM
Jun 2012

Color vision is X-linked. That's why men are around 100 times more likely to be color blind. Tetrachromacy would require a "normal" set of trichromatic genes and an "altered" set that allow for tetrachromacy. An altered set on it's own would merely result in a different perception of the hues trichromats can see rather than superior vision.

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
19. Sharpness and colour perception are determined by different mechanisms
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 07:46 AM
Jun 2012

Think of it as the difference between a camera's lens and a camera's film.

Geoff R. Casavant

(2,381 posts)
5. The tetrachromats would all be women.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 05:50 PM
Jun 2012

The gene for one of the cones lies on the X chromosome -- tetrachromats would have two copies, and if they differ significantly then both copies would be expressed.

Men, having only one X chromosome, cannot be tetrachromats. Though depending on what X chromosome any particular man inherited from his mother, he might see a different set of 1 million colors than a man who inherited an X chromosome with a different variation of the cone gene.

 

laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
7. I want to see into the ultraviolet, dammit!
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 06:07 PM
Jun 2012

Birds, insects, and even turtles can do it, so why can't I just get gene therapy to see light at ultraviolet wavelengths?

Silent3

(15,212 posts)
10. Actually, I've heard that some people do see into the near ultraviolet.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:53 PM
Jun 2012

Particularly people who have had cataract surgery. It appears that in some cases the artificial lens implants people get don't filter out as much of the UV as a natural lens does.

This isn't tetrachromacy, of course. The extra UV that gets through apparently acts like extra blue light as far as the effect on the colors you see.

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
26. He has optical rectitus.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 03:11 PM
Jul 2012

(Shity outlook) Common ailment with republicans. He also has Bovine Oral Rectitus which leaks out uncontrollably.

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
14. That's hard! I missed four.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 10:40 PM
Jun 2012

I'm going to have my mom and my daughter take it, as I'm convinced they see more colors or colors more clearly than most do.

 

laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
21. Woo! Scored 3!
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 04:55 AM
Jun 2012

I knew the three I got wrong were out of order, but no amount of shuffling looked right.

NickB79

(19,243 posts)
23. 174? WTF?
Thu Jun 28, 2012, 11:37 AM
Jun 2012

My wife is going to give me so much shit over this. She already says I'm not allowed to teach our 2-yr old colors

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
30. That's the same test they had over at Huffington post last week.
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 10:21 AM
Jul 2012

I scored a zero on it. Perfect color vision.

Jim__

(14,076 posts)
9. It looks like the cone for red is highly polymorphic.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 07:33 PM
Jun 2012

The red and green cones have a huge overlap in the colors they respond to. From wikipedia:



...

The opsins (photopigments) present in the L and M cones are encoded on the X chromosome; defective encoding of these leads to the two most common forms of color blindness. The OPN1LW gene, which codes for the opsin present in the L cones, is highly polymorphic (a recent study by Verrelli and Tishkoff found 85 variants in a sample of 236 men[9]). A very small percentage of women may have an extra type of color receptor because they have different alleles for the gene for the L opsin on each X chromosome. X chromosome inactivation means that only one opsin is expressed in each cone cell, and some women may therefore show a degree of tetrachromatic color vision.[10] Variations in OPN1MW, which codes the opsin expressed in M cones, appear to be rare, and the observed variants have no effect on spectral sensitivity.

...


So, is the implication that this fourth cone would have a peak response between the peak responses shown for red and green, maybe at about 575nm?

 

laconicsax

(14,860 posts)
11. I think it would depend on the mutation.
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:06 PM
Jun 2012

While the implication seems to be that the fourth cone would peak in that green-yellow range, the lack of research in the area can't rule out other possibilities.

Jim__

(14,076 posts)
12. My thought is that the mutation that causes color blindness in men probably peaks ...
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 09:26 PM
Jun 2012

... nearer to green than normal.

Of course, with the red cone being highly polymorphic, there are probably women with different spectral versions of tetrachromatic vision. That difference could explain why most of the women they suspect have this vision haven't tested positive for it.

hunter

(38,312 posts)
24. Our red-green discrimination is an evolutionary kludge.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 09:11 PM
Jun 2012

Our fury distant ancestors lost two of their color receptors. Skulking about at night, maybe they weren't using them.

Our great ape ancestors regained trichromacy in a forking of the remaining red-green receptor.

The peak sensitivities of reptile and bird color receptors are evenly spaced.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_vision





Javaman

(62,530 posts)
20. RadioLab just did a show on this...
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:40 AM
Jun 2012

and what they found was pretty interesting.

They did locate a woman with this ability. She happened to be an interior designer.

They gave her several swatches of color to look at. All seemed, to the average viewer, to be the same color. However, when she viewed them, she was able to pick out the subtle differences in each as if they all were completely different colors.

But then something interesting happened. They asked a male artist to take the same test. He was also able to see the differences in color with the same accuracy as the woman.

The conclusion they came to was: while some woman may have this as an innate ability, it appears as if a person can also learn to hone their own ability.

Given the fact that the guy was an artist and is looking at color all day long, it could be the difference between someone who plays a piano as apposed to some who is a accomplished pianist.

The more you deal with color the better you get at seeing the various differences.

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