...that "The climate is degrading at the fastest rate ever observed; we are using more fossil fuels than ever; and we're doing nothing practical to address this."

One of the obvious things we can and should be doing is building out a lot more non-CO2 emitting energy sources like solar, wind, and nuclear so that the green hydrogen we will need for energy storage can and will be made fossil free.

and one in Australia. If such sources exist in other places like oil deposits do around the world, isn't that promisin...negating the need to manufacture dirty hydrogen that burns more energy to create than it yields?

To the extent geological hydrogen exists, it is almost certainly the result of thermal supercritical water reformation of dangerous fossil fuels in deep reservoirs.

The Maxwell Boltzmann distribution assures that any hydrogen released into the atmosphere will boil off into space, as does the helium found in dangerous natural gas. This is why, despite being the most common components of the universe as a whole, both are rare on Earth.

We are now approaching half a century since the publication of the first issue of the International Journal of Hydrogen Energy in 1976, 47 years to be exact.

In 1976, the concentration of the dangerous fossil fuel carbon dioxide in the planetary atmosphere was measured at the Mauna Loa CO2 Observatory for the week beginning November 14, 1976 at 330.19 ppm.

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whether they 're naturally occurring like oil deposits, and can maybe obtained and used like natural gas is?

What's the harm in professional geologists/scientists exploring the possibility of finding green energy sources?

...time in the primary scientific literature thinking about approaches to sustainability.

My ethical purview includes not depleting every damned thing on the planet for short term temporary fixes.

Even if there were meaningful geological hydrogen, if it's mined then it's not in my view "green."

In fact one of the big lies before humanity is that resource depletion, be in metals for the wind and solar scams are "green."

Mining the shit out of the planet is not "green."

Even the fossil fuel salespeople and salesbots who work to rebrand dangerous natural gas and dangerous coal as "hydrogen," don't call this mined hydrogen - to the extent it exists - "green."

The stupid color scheme that's been attached to this unsustainable filthy hydrogen scam, calls putative mined hydrogen "white hydrogen."

Who gives a shit? Half a century of hydrogen bullshit has not made it into a source of primary energy, and efforts to make it into a consumer fuel are dangerous, although it is extremely unlikely that it will happen. The technical issues are too onerous.

All this idiot talk has left the planet in flames.

There is nothing to stop people, including scientists - a class of people to which I belong - from chasing stupid chimeras. We are human beings. I however, am the sort of human being who has some regard for future generations. I oppose unnecessary mining, and as far as energy goes, I oppose bait and switch tactics, including those utilized by fossil fuel salespeople and salesbots here and elsewhere rebranding this fuel, overwhelmingly produced by steam reforming of dangerous fossil fuels, as "green."