In fact, it makes God cry.

But don't you know by now that if anything in the Bible contradicts what these people do, they just ignore it. Or maybe they feel that the end justifies the means. Or maybe the lies that they tell are what they really believe are the truth.....you know, like they delude themselves about God being their personal protector.

You are so right. Actually, I have heard so many more lies coming from believers than non-believers that I am starting to wonder if they actually follow any of the commandments.

Doncha know about the Trinity. If Jesus wept, God wept, because they are both the same person. Or something like that....makes sense to me.

She just looked at me like I was nuts. Apparently she had a hard time accepting they could be the same person. Yeah, I don't blame her. It sounded like god committed suicide to her.

but it DOES sound like suicide. It is a little hard to understand.

so she simplified it in her own head. After she mentioned suicide, I couldn't help but think she may be on to something. Part of my deconversion actually.

I've posted these before but here's a couple of interesting quotes....

"What harm would it do, if a man told a good strong lie for the sake of the good and for the Christian church … a lie out of necessity, a useful lie, a helpful lie, such lies would not be against God, he would accept them."

Martin Luther

From the transcript of the Eisenach assembly of July 1540.
Also The Life and Letters of Martin Luther by Preserved Smith, Houghton Mifflin, 2nd edition, 1911, p. 381
among others...

another...

The words of Eusebius Pamphili, a Roman historian (c. AD 263–339) states in his Book Evangelical Preparation:

"It may be lawful and fitting to use fictions [falsehood] as a medicine, and for the benefit of those [Christians] who want to be deceived."

He was the first to "notice" the infamous Testimonium Flavianum of Josephus the historian whose account apologetics claim "proves" the existence of Jesus Christ 300 years earlier... and he is thought to have treated Josephus' works with his "medicinal fictions". Studies have put great doubt on the "Christ" references in Josephus' works because of writing style inaccuracies and abrupt cadence that does not fit any of his works or even in the sentences that those references are found. They were "inserted" at a later date.

Even historical references Christians rely on impregnated with untruths. And as for at least one man who is the founder of protestant Christianity... he seems to have been a premeditated lier by admission. Seems ironic.

is Potholer54, every year he ran a contest for the largest breach of the 9th commandment by creationists (this year's winners:

They had to come up with a justification for the crusades, despite the "thou shalt not kill". They created a loophole that it's ok to kill if you do it defending Christianity.