Will that affect this group? As we are, as we know, observed for anything remotely hide-worthy posted here, yes of course.

Like was said below: Takes 4 votes to hide now, will still take 4 votes to hide afterwards. The odds of the 7th juror favoring us is the same as the other 6, so if it does not favor us now it probably wont favor us afterwards either.

I like the change because I just think a tie going to either side is dumb. A tie means (hypothetically at least) that 1/2 of DU thinks the comment is fine, the other half thinks it crosses the line. Half of DU, either way, is a significant and you are alienating one or the other.

Why allow for such ambiguity if you don't have too?

so I don't expect any more fairness from 7 Christian jurors than we have gotten from 6.

Some day I hope the bashers all realize how tacky they're being, but that's not going to happen as long as they're getting that weekly injection of anti atheist bigotry from the pulpits.

This makes me laugh
I am a black, Female, Atheist, With a White Husband and Children who look their Father. I am a barely tolerated Minority everywhere I go LOL. Not a Complaint Life is Good!

I think a 7 person Jury would provide more fairness to the process. If a tie means an automatic, Hide that seems unfair. So at least having a system that destroys the tie senario seems a little more fair to me.

But why go to 7, the could drop to 5?

If we would just provide Proof of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, Christians would stop believing in their silly god of the bible.
The burden is on us LOL

and I think the same way, which is why I voted for the 7 person jury.

The burden is always on us, never mind the true burden is all theirs. The best they can do is spout poetry about pretty birds and baby smiles and don't understand that poetry aint proof.

I love watching the Atheist-Experience on YT. It is so funny how many call in and say, "Can you prove their isn't a god?"

LOL

It is also very funny how little the "Christians" know about the bible.

I was guilty of that when I was a Christian. I focused on the happy scriptures and ignored the rest. When I sat down and started reading rest of the bible, I just, it just seemed so obsurd to me.

I had the bible in my hand and after reading the story of the Golden Calf, I looked up at my husband and said, "oh dear, I don't believe this stuff is good, I just don't believe it anymore" And just like that Atheist.

She sat down in her 70s and read it cover to cover.

She was nail-spitting furious! "This crap is what's been held over my head all my life?"

I don't think she ever set foot in a church again.

That was my reaction, I was like this is nuts. How do you have a supossedly hand written message from god, that says thou shall not kill, and then you order the levite soldiers to kill 3,000 of god's choses people. And god had zero problem with Moses order.

Also the only time Moses "talked" with god he was alone. I think the desert heat made him high as kite and he was talking to himself

That popped into my head immediately when I first saw the poll. Before I read your post.

Going to 5 would solve the tie-breaking problem. And it should be easier to round up 5 than 7 jurors at any given time.

But I guess that doesn't matter. The inmates of our little asylum here will always be outvoted anyway. So I went for the 7.

I am a black, Female, Atheist, With a White Husband and Children who look like their Father...

LOL! Damn, you should count for 7 jury votes all by yourself!

The way it is now, it takes 4 or more Hide votes to hide. A 3-3 tie means the post stays.

I have no problem at all with the concept of a 6-person jury and it taking 4 votes to hide. I like it that it takes a super-majority to hide a post.

ON EDIT: That said, I like the 5-person jury idea too.

Thanks for clearing that up. A tie situation should still be eliminated imo

depending on how one views the "deciders". It's still favors keeping the offending comments statistically but it seems there are issues many have that are from their personal experience with the system and what they want out of it that slews their position. If you stick to the logical conclusion the choice isn't that complicated. Either way works, the 7 jury system may have a small advantage by breaking ties easier in either direction. But the bias is still in favor of the poster.

The whole field changes if what people are interested in is only a unanimous decision to hide, and there are some points to consider there, but it moves to philosophical grounds about what is fair or righteous. But the actual difference between 6 and 7 jurors is pretty small. The dynamics of juror selection will be slightly more consuming but not by much. The time consuming element is more in how much time a juror takes to comment... and we want opinion comments, right? I do. But one more juror choice won't really be perceived I don't think.

As for A & A, I think little change is imminent since the major force against civility are the anti-reason folks who like to stamp out evil. Those folks are a dime a dozen and will always be there, no matter how many jurors there are. I think prayer is just as effective a deterrent. Let's pray, shall we?

I'm curious what you think will be the change in number of alerts if any under the new system. I'm a little concerned about an increase in frivolous alerts as a counter to the new system just for spite, also in that it doesn't seem to have had a reevaluation of the false alert quota.

I don't think it changes much.

in which a post would be allowed to stand. If this is implemented, there will be 4 jury outcomes out of 8 in which a post would be allowed to stand.

Although, argued another way, 7 jurors is only infinitesimally more representative of DU than 6. It will be interesting to see how this plays out if the admins go ahead with it.

Many of the votes that I have seen have been majority to hide anyways. I will say that there have been posts that I would have voted to hide based on calling out someone or really nasty comments that were unnecessary (even if they were warranted). We are often baited, and I hate it when someone rises to the bait so easily.