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Saw the trailer for the new Exodus movie today. The title has been changed to Exodus: Gods & Kings. Link for the trailer below.
The trailer probably shows all the best parts: river of blood, giant locusts, parting of the Red Sea, etc. Looks like some pretty fair CGI and special effects.
People are already protesting because all the lead actors are suspiciously pale, for residents of ancient North Africa.
The Egyptians should probably be protesting. Looks like we get the old "slaves building the Pyramids" fiction, and the movie Pharaoh is called "Ramses." Many Xians claim that was Ramses II. Not likely. He ruled for 67 years but didn't record any instances of Red Sea chariot-yachting or mass murders of Egyptian rug-rats by irate Jewish deities. We also know exactly where his body is today - in the Egyptian Museum with other famous mummies, not at the bottom of the Red Sea.
And we'll probably be hearing from outraged Xians. You just know they'll scream bloody dead-Egyptian-firstborn if this thing doesn't follow the Heston "10 Commandments" word-for-word.
I personally enjoy the 1956 original as sheer campy entertainment. Especially Anne Baxter having multiple orgasms as she slinks around moaning "Moses...Moses...MOSES!"
Trailer: http://m.
Caught the trailer because I went to the movies today and saw "Fury." Great XXXX-rated war porn. Though the young woman who sold me my ticket said she watched "Fury" last night, and liked it a lot.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Check out her "Killing of the first born" scene!
http://vimeo.com/108679857
http://blog.ninapaley.com/2014/10/12/death-of-the-firstborn-egyptians/
onager
(9,356 posts)At least in showing those mummified cattle, birds, etc. as well as people.
The Egyptians mummified every animal they deified, which was just about all of them.
The Graeco-Roman Museum in Alexandria displayed a huge mummified crocodile, in honor of Sobek The Crocodile God. That thing was mummified several thousand years ago, and still looked so real I thought it was going to try and take a bite out of me.
Alexandria has many relics dating to the 2-3rd century, when religions were sort of melding. Especially the phantasmagorical 3-story underground tomb complex at Kom el-Shoqafa. Built when the Romans ruled Egypt, but incorporates Greek, Roman and ancient Egyptian religious symbolism pretty much equally.
Then along came the Xians, and later the Muslims, whose gods didn't play nice with others...
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Here's her take on the theme to the other "Exodus".
If you haven't seen her masterpiece "Sita Sings the Blues"... you can do so for free!
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Don't you just LOVE it when you geek out on something, and then someone else geeks out too? Thank you!
Heddi
(18,312 posts)No one would want to see a movie where middle easterners actually, yanno, looked like middle-easterners. Might give the bigots something to think about if they realized the Founding Fathers of Christianity weren't blond-haired, blue-eyed starlets with 6-pack abs and flowing locks.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Talking snakes, a worldwide flood, a burning bush, white people in Egypt ...
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)LostOne4Ever
(9,289 posts)would have looked like (if he were real) than Hollywood is willing to make.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)But, you know the Egyptians couldn't possibly have built those fucking things on their own. Sure, they had already built a bunch of them already. Sure, they were an advanced society with unparalleled knowledge of mathematics and architectural principals. Sure, they were a centralized, organized, hierarchical state. They obviously required the assistance of a bunch of illiterate goat herders who hadn't yet found the good sense to settle in one fucking place.
AlbertCat
(17,505 posts)Oh man! It's THE comedy hit of the 20th century!
Yule Brynner as Pharaoh????? ....say wha.....?
Yvonne de Carlo????
Edward G Robinson????
And the literal-ness of it all....sorta like Victorian pageantry.
And the extras' prophetic dialogue...
"Say, where are we going?"
"To the promised land I hear."
"I hear it flows with milk and honey!"
AAAAUUUURRRRGGGGHHHH!
onager
(9,356 posts)Wonder why that is? He also name-drops two ancient historians: Philo of Alexandria, "who walked the Earth at the same time as Jesus Christ." Which has nothing to do with the Exodus. And Flavius Josephus. Who only had the same source materials as Philo to work from - ancient Hebrew legend, starring Charlton Heston.
http://m.
mr blur
(7,753 posts)thus setting the stage for a 40-year stumbling around lost in the desert fighting robot scorpions?
And Moses rides a motorbike and has an Adamantium skeleton? And he has a smart gun called the Lawgiver? And drives the Mosemobile? Cool!
onager
(9,356 posts)"The Imitation Game." Opening in the U.K. on 14 November and U.S. on the 21st. Looks interesting.
From the Wikipedia article on the movie:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Imitation_Game
ImdB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2084970/
I've often suspected that robo-posters in Certain DU Groups are not quite what they seem to be, and might pass a Turing Test...
Cartoonist
(7,317 posts)First heard by me from Larry Gonick's Cartoon History of the Universe.
Racism has always been a part of human history. That's why the origin of Moses has him found floating in a wicker basket as a baby. That way no one can point to his racial roots. And Moses isn't the only Pagan God with a similar origin, all designed to hide what race they are. Even Jesus' parentage seeks to hide this, which is why He can be depicted as a white man.
onager
(9,356 posts)...the Mesopotamian ruler Sargon The Great. And for the same mythic reasons IIRC - he was destined to become king, people who knew that wanted to whack him, etc.
There's another very familiar story told about the Egyptian Pharaoh Sneferu. He built the first "real" pyramids at Dashur - the Bent Pyramid and the Red Pyramid, which are still standing. Unlike any evidence for a 40-year trek in the desert by certain people...
Sneferu was floating on a lake with his harem. One of the women lost a ring given to her by her father. The Pharaoh said he would give her a bigger and better ring, but her ring was irreplaceable and she was inconsolable.
So Sneferu had his court magician part the waters of the lake and find the ring on the bottom.
For some archeological fun, search on "Ron Wyatt." Among many other whoppers, Wyatt claimed he found chariot parts on the bottom of the Red Sea. PROOF!1! that the Moses yarn was true. Wyatt conned thousands of dollars from gullible Fundies for his archeological expeditions, but eventually even most of them caught on and refused to give him any more money.
Cartoonist
(7,317 posts)Someone found an old board on Mt. Sinai and declared Noah's story to be TRUE.
Cartoonist
(7,317 posts)And to show that even scientists can be goofy, here's astronaut James Irwin:
Irwin left NASA and retired from the U.S. Air Force with the rank of Colonel in 1972 and founded the High Flight Foundation, spending his last 20 years as a "Goodwill Ambassador for the Prince of Peace", stating that "Jesus walking on the earth is more important than man walking on the moon".[13] He frequently spoke about how his experiences in space had made the presence of God even more real to him than before.
Beginning in 1973, Irwin led several expeditions to Mount Ararat, Turkey, in search of the remains of Noah's Ark.
mr blur
(7,753 posts)He found Noah's Ark, you know. It's true, I've seen the pictures!
http://www.wyattmuseum.com/noahsark.htm
onager
(9,356 posts)If he didn't find some ancient Bible thingamajig, it didn't need to be found. And was probably Of Satan anyway.
Just did a quick search. Amazing - there's a book coming out this month - Oct 2014 repeating the old story that Wyatt found the Ark of the Covenant in Saudi Arabia. Along with all the treasures of Solomon's Temple.
Hundreds of pounds of gold! But in the FIRST book about this topic, Wyatt claimed that the Saudi govt. sealed off the site with armed guards and churlishly wouldn't let him back in. After he was nice enough to find it and show them where it was.
That meant he was regrettably unable to furnish any evidence.
Damn, I hate it when that happens...
sakabatou
(42,158 posts)The Ten Commandments (1956) and The Prince of Egypt (1998)*.
*My opinion.
Besides, if you want to talk about race lifting, The Last Airbender was much worse. See here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RaceLift
onager
(9,356 posts)Not Biblical, but partly filmed on location in Egypt. Which didn't help a bit...
Land of the Pharaohs (directed by Howard Hawks; written by Harry Kurnitz and William Faulkner?!?; starring Jack Hawkins, James Robertson Justice, and Joan Collins; 1955): One of the all-time stinkers, both as movie and history, featuring some of the worst acting and most ludicrous dialogue in film history.
One of the appeals of the movie is that large portions of it were filmed in Egypt in the early 1950s. Another of its charms is that it provides ample "What is wrong with this scene?" opportunities for gaffe-squaders, such as when the king rides into town in triumph during the opening scenes followed by his camel corps, in spite of the fact that camels were not introduced into Egypt until two thousand years after the pyramids were built! Finally, it definitively answers the age-old question: Why were the pyramids built? Why? So as to provide Joan Collins with an appropriate resting-place, of course!
From this webpage, an interesting list of movies shot in Egypt:
http://www.thebanmappingproject.com/articles/article_15.3.html
Naturally I have this thing in my video collection. The reviewer is correct, it's a gobbling turkey.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)What was needed? Influence the decision-making of ONE person, the pharaoh.
Jehovah could have sent him a dream or vision to change his mind. Maybe the pharaoh would have converted to Judaism! But nooooooooooo. Child-slaughter it is.
Gelliebeans
(5,043 posts)I saw the trailer too. :Rofl: I said it sounds like someone stepped in front of Christians's line of sight because he was having another tantrum then I just realized he was being Moses. Ha!
I really liked "fury", my kid talked me into going with him and I am glad I did.