because faith is the end of inquiry.

I loves me some Bach and was listening to Cantata BWV 178 - Wo Gott der Herr nicht bei uns hält

As Wiki describes it:

In the last aria, in a statement of opposition to rationalism—the "weasel words of rationalists, who would bring down the whole Lutheran theological edifice" in the words of John Eliot Gardiner—the poet expands the words of the reformers' hymn, "Vernunft kann das nicht fassen" (reason cannot grasp it), appealing to reason, described as unstable and frenzied, to be silent.

The music is amazing tho' .... of course.

person who is curious and seeks knowledge is punished or suffers dire consequences

- Eve & apple of knowledge - gets herself and hubby banished from Eden
- Pandora opening the box - brings misery to all
- Prometheus gives humanity the knowledge of fire (wisdom, science), gets chained to a rock and his liver eaten by an eagle for all eternity
(Odin had to stab out his own eye and hang upside down for 9 days to get wisdom, but that was more of self sacrifice than punishment)

Draper is riddled with historical errors and promulgates myths worthy of the Bible. If complexity is too much for you to handle, then you might seek out Jones' control model which is probably more to your tastes, and at least has the advantage of being historically accurate.

Civility has its virtues. If you have a different perspective I'd be interested in hearing it.

And why are they of relevance to this argument?

Perhaps Draper is Paul W. Draper.... a magician:
(from Wiki: ) Paul Draper is an anthropologist, consultant, and mentalist.

Before embarking on a career in magic and mentalism in Las Vegas, Draper received his degrees in Anthropology in Utah where he was a lecturer at Westminster College and Weber State University.He was later an instructor at the University of Nevada, Las Vegas and taught communication studies.

Draper was also the House Magician at the Venetian Hotel and Casinos in Las Vegas.

Jones is obviously Davey Jones from the Monkees

It wouldn't be unusual...

I thought Don Draper was really Richard Whitman?

you are talking about?

what that page says. It says that the original formulation by Draper is not considered historically accurate.

But religion and reason are usually in conflict.

Wow.

as Prometheus Loki etc.

Which is interesting because the bible refers to both Jesus and Satan as the "Morning Star".


Derpity-doo