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onager

(9,356 posts)
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:14 PM Nov 2014

Holy Money (Vatican Finances) - Al-Jazeera

Catching up to the DVR...

Show: "Holy Money" (1 hour)
Channel: Al-Jazeera
Showing: today and probably again in near future

Usual blather:

Excellent investigation into where the Vatican gets its money and where it goes. Packs a lot of information into 1 measly hour, including:

--historical info on how Benito Mussolini and his Fascists created the modern Vatcan's financial reserves.

--the shadowy Vatican Bank and how it frustrated investigations by the Italian govt. and others.

--the amazing story of Msgr. Scarano, a/k/a "Father 500 Euros" (from his habit of walking around with a wad of those banknotes). A modestly-paid Vatican Bank accountant who lived in a 17-room luxury apartment decorated with Chagalls and other expensive artworks.

--how the American Church stonewalled child abuse investigations, then hid funds to avoid paying victims

--what the British govt. found when it tried to track big purchases of prime London real estate.

BONUS: you'll see a rare breed in this show - actual working journalists. Though all of them seem to be either Italian or British, not the airheads we usually get on American TV.


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Holy Money (Vatican Finances) - Al-Jazeera (Original Post) onager Nov 2014 OP
I love AJA and their in depth reporting is absolutely stellar Warpy Nov 2014 #1
Checked my program guide on my TV machine for Al J TV JDDavis Nov 2014 #2
Only saw it listed today. onager Nov 2014 #3
Thank you very much, good luck with JDDavis Nov 2014 #4
I am so freaking dense. Curmudgeoness Nov 2014 #5
Yes, evidently, "holiday" is an English variant of JDDavis Nov 2014 #6
I did know about Christmas. Curmudgeoness Nov 2014 #7
Whatever that "holy wood" is, it's probably a JDDavis Nov 2014 #8
Very clever. I like! nt Curmudgeoness Nov 2014 #9
Nope. Hollywood's original name was "Figwood." onager Nov 2014 #10
Hollywood was named for the Toyon Lordquinton Nov 2014 #11
It was the battle of the trees! onager Nov 2014 #12
Figs aren't native to the area Lordquinton Nov 2014 #13

Warpy

(111,292 posts)
1. I love AJA and their in depth reporting is absolutely stellar
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:21 PM
Nov 2014

Also, their regular newscasters don't use loaded language, something that used to be standard on network news but which the corporate far right managed to change, having had so much success with it on Pox. Morons love their loaded language, it feeds the spite.

It's also great for international news, something sorely lacking in provincial US newscasts.

 

JDDavis

(725 posts)
2. Checked my program guide on my TV machine for Al J TV
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 05:32 PM
Nov 2014

Yes, I have that channel on the lineup, and it's got listings for the next few days available to view, set and record.

But I also did a search for a show titled "Holy Money" on any channel, (including Al J) and nothing came up.

Did you realize how many shows have a title that starts with "H O L "?

All the Hollywood shows, all the Holy Masses on all the Catholic Stations, and a ton of others that start with the word "Holy".

Perhaps I overlooked it on the list, but I don't think so, I double checked.

Do you have a time when that will air on Al Jazeera in your area? Just curious, don't want to miss it.

onager

(9,356 posts)
3. Only saw it listed today.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 06:28 PM
Nov 2014

At 12:00 noon, Pacific time. I DVR'd it last night - Friday 11/21 at 7 PM, according to the box.

You're right, LOTS of shows start with H O L. Including all those masses on the Catholic channel, EWTN. I'll be popping into that channel over the holidays - watching the 900-yr-old nuns selling life-size Nativity scenes and such. I don't know who offers the tackiest Xmas crap - the Catholics or the Crouches on TBN.

I'm sure Al-Jazeera will show it again. Sorry you couldn't catch it right away.

 

JDDavis

(725 posts)
4. Thank you very much, good luck with
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 06:32 PM
Nov 2014

shopping for tacky Christm//// HOLIDAY goods, (another word that begins with H O L ... (on the shopping channels, lots of H O L iday shopping times listed there.)

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
5. I am so freaking dense.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 08:47 PM
Nov 2014

This is the first time that I have paid any attention to the word "holiday". Shit. Saying "happy holidays" isn't secular!

How did I never notice that before? And why are the religionists upset about "happy holidays"????

 

JDDavis

(725 posts)
6. Yes, evidently, "holiday" is an English variant of
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 09:07 PM
Nov 2014

"holy day", most likely from the Christian, (Roman Catholic) calendar of dates when special praise much be made to their god, their savior son of god, and all the other angels and saints which each get a "Holy Day" dedicated to their name.

The holy day for Jesus is Christ's Mass Day, the most holy of all holy days of the year. I guess only atheists and heathens and pagans and Jews and Muslims and Hindus and all the other non-Christians don't know that.

But, someone tell me, is Hollywood named after a holy wood?

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
7. I did know about Christmas.
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 09:15 PM
Nov 2014

It is just "holiday" that went right over my head, and I can't recall anyone ever calling that to my attention.

And I am not touching that "holy wood" with a ten foot pole.

 

JDDavis

(725 posts)
8. Whatever that "holy wood" is, it's probably a
Sat Nov 22, 2014, 09:33 PM
Nov 2014

palm tree, located in a thicket of holy woods and vines, in the city of the angels.

That must be one of the most holy places on the planet, with several other cities along that ocean coastline named for other saints, (San Diego, San Francisco, Santa Barbara, Santa Monica, San Pedro, San Louis Obispo, San Bernadino, etc.)

onager

(9,356 posts)
10. Nope. Hollywood's original name was "Figwood."
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 02:19 AM
Nov 2014

No obvious hoiiness. Except that the original settlers of Hollywood must have been a moralistic bunch - they banned the sale of liquor in 1904. Except for "medicinal purposes."

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood

For visitors here, don't miss the cemetery on Santa Monica Blvd. named "Hollywood Forever." Many of Hollywood/L.A.'s founders and most famous citizens are planted there. Including Bugsy Siegel, Cecil B. DeMille, Rudolph Valentino, Marion Davies (mistress of Wm. Randolph Hearst)...

ON-TOPIC: And the truly awesome Col. Griffith J. Griffith. Yes, as in Griffith Park, Observatory, etc. etc. The Colonel donated all that land to the city because he kept neglecting to pay property taxes, and that's how he settled his tax bills.

He didn't care, since it wasn't his land but his wife's. He married a woman from one of California's oldest and richest Hispanic families. Which meant Catholic. And Col. Griffith hated Catholics.

The Griffiths owned a bungalow right on the beach in Santa Monica, only slightly smaller than the White House. One day Col. Griffith became convinced that his wife and the Pope were conspiring to kill him.

He shot his wife in the head and dumped her out the third story of the bungalow. Incredibly, she lived and testified against Griffith at his trial. And divorced him.

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
11. Hollywood was named for the Toyon
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 08:25 PM
Nov 2014

Or California Holly, a tree native to the state, and well, a forest of them in that area.

onager

(9,356 posts)
12. It was the battle of the trees!
Sun Nov 23, 2014, 11:12 PM
Nov 2014

Lots of fig trees in the area too, as the Wiki article notes. But the Wilcox family liked "Hollywood" better.

It also mentions the real estate shenanigans of the time, involving some prominent Los Angeles 1%-ers: the Otis/Chandler families, founders of the Los Angeles TIMES.

Then after the shenanigans, the inevitable real-estate bust happened - the more things change, etc.

We're lucky the place wasn't named after a street in North Hollywood. That huge sign up on the hillside would read "Klumpwood..."

Anyone interested in the history of L.A. - check out the 2009 PBS documentary "Inventing L.A." It focuses on the Los Angeles TIMES and its founding families. You'll get a lot of the real story behind the movie "Chinatown," if you read - or watch - between the lines.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1368463/

Lordquinton

(7,886 posts)
13. Figs aren't native to the area
Mon Nov 24, 2014, 04:21 AM
Nov 2014

so maybe that's why they went with Holly (which isn't actually a holly, but go figure...)

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