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Cartoonist

(7,316 posts)
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 10:18 PM Nov 2014

I just walked in to a stupid room.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20141129102848AA8kPVm

Spiritually speaking, is the statement, "evolution is a fact" a blatant lie of the devil or merely an expression of ignorance?
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What, no third option?

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Smartassawhip answered 1 day ago
It is a blatant lie of Satan. It is a very confused and ignorant way to try to explain how everything got here and leave God out of the process. The underlying worldview that Evolution comes from is that this Universe is only Material, that nothing but matter and the energy produced is real. Children in the Public School children are acculturated into this worldview because of "cognitive dissonance" can not really believe that there is a Spirit realm or that God exists and has power. It is like Jesus said, "A man cannot have 2 masters, either he will hate the one and love the other or he will treat one with respect and the other with scorn,."
Source(s):
The Holy Bible and Psychology in college.

great answered 1 day ago
Science does not claim anything to be a "fact" - it is impossible to prove that anything to be a fact. As such, even gravity is "only" a theory. Even if you throw a ball up a hundred quadrillion time and observed that it falls back every single time, you still cannot conclusively claim that the ball will fall back the next time. What you can say is based on the evidence, it is with almost certain probability that the ball will fall back down the next time.
This is what scientist called a theory. A theory is simply a claim backed with strong evidence. Also, scientist are as confident that the theory of evolution in the same way scientist are confident that the theory of gravitation is "real".

Jordan answered 17 hours ago
Evolution is a THEORY, not a fact. Evolution is just a lie that the Liberals use to dumb down the public.

hank answered 1 day ago
its an expression of someone who doesn't know too much about bibilical facts because there's evidence of man,dinousars and early man co-existing if whoever said that were to google it.

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I just walked in to a stupid room. (Original Post) Cartoonist Nov 2014 OP
ouch! marym625 Nov 2014 #1
Some people Turbineguy Nov 2014 #2
Can't say you didn't provide fair warning bvf Nov 2014 #3
The whole religious/non-religious thing is very simple if you really want to get down to it. Tobin S. Dec 2014 #4
But what about gravity? Cartoonist Dec 2014 #5
actually, on the 101st time, two african sparrows, ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2014 #6
... progressoid Dec 2014 #7
It'll have to come out. nt awoke_in_2003 Dec 2014 #14
I have to admit that hurts. Curmudgeoness Dec 2014 #8
What a good scientific theory does is predict things.... that later turn out to be true. AlbertCat Dec 2014 #9
I had not heard about the crickets, Curmudgeoness Dec 2014 #10
Natural selection is evolution. jeffrey_pdx Dec 2014 #12
And there's always the classic Peppered Moth example. Arugula Latte Dec 2014 #13
At least one of them admits he likes having a master. AtheistCrusader Dec 2014 #11
Cringe worthy Gelliebeans Dec 2014 #15

Turbineguy

(37,324 posts)
2. Some people
Sun Nov 30, 2014, 10:27 PM
Nov 2014

learn from their errors; they evolve. Others keep making the same mistakes over and over but claim they are carrying out God's will.

If the first group is to be believed, God is pretty smart. Maybe even smart enough to create the Universe. If the second group is to be believed, God is too stupid to tie his shoes. All of which seems pretty ironic.

Tobin S.

(10,418 posts)
4. The whole religious/non-religious thing is very simple if you really want to get down to it.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 06:22 AM
Dec 2014

Provide evidence to support your claims. If you don't have good evidence to support your claims, you really don't have a believable argument. You then move out of the realm of facts and into the realm of faith regarding your point of view. I'm not going to tell anyone what they can and cannot believe, but don't try to get me to believe it too if you have no evidence to back it up.

Cartoonist

(7,316 posts)
5. But what about gravity?
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 12:23 PM
Dec 2014

If you throw a ball up a hundred quadrillion time and observed that it falls back every single time, you still cannot conclusively claim that the ball will fall back the next time. Where's your evidence?

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
6. actually, on the 101st time, two african sparrows,
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 02:59 PM
Dec 2014

flying in tandem with a woven net, will swoop down and grab the ball just before it attracts the earth back to itself.

After all, it is not the ball that moves, but rather, the earth.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
8. I have to admit that hurts.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 04:17 PM
Dec 2014

"Great" was getting off on the right foot, then totally derailed. Hey, "Great", have you ever heard the difference between a scientific "theory" and a "law". It is the "law of gravity", which gives it much more standing than the "theory of evolution". Both are credible based on observations, unlike the "opinion of hank".

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
9. What a good scientific theory does is predict things.... that later turn out to be true.
Mon Dec 1, 2014, 10:50 PM
Dec 2014

Evolution may be the best at this.

Altho' I think we have now actually "seen" evolution. Something about crickets who's "song" also attracts a predator (I can't remember where this is happening) so the crickets that don't sing are surviving...even tho' it's more difficult to mate. The song is created by little barbs on the wing cases that they rub back and forth. The barbs in a majority of crickets now are gone or very tiny and ineffective. The behavior hasn't changed, but the structure of the wing cases.

Where did I read this? Somewhere on the Science board?

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
10. I had not heard about the crickets,
Tue Dec 2, 2014, 02:00 PM
Dec 2014

but there are so many examples of observations related to evolution. The one that I use all the time is super-bugs. Funny how people who do not believe in evolution do believe that there are super-bugs that have a resistance to antibiotics. I don't know how they rationalize this, but it is either that 1) they don't know what evolution is or 2) they think that God created these super-bugs...modern "miracles" do occur.

With the crickets, I would say that it is more an example of "natural selection", which is different from "evolution". I remember the premiere example of natural selection was the moths in England. Most of them were white and lived camouflaged on birch tree trunks. When the Industrial Revolution put so much soot in the air that the tree trunks got dirty and blackened, the white moths were easily seen and eaten, so they disappeared and the black ones lived to breed. It was not evolution, but it is a component of the theory. If my memory isn't gone (and that is possible these days), evolution is a slight change in the DNA from mutation that rarely will give an advantage to the organism, so it succeeds and prospers.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
13. And there's always the classic Peppered Moth example.
Thu Dec 4, 2014, 12:39 PM
Dec 2014

From good ol' Wikipedia:

The evolution of the peppered moth over the last two hundred years has been studied in detail. Originally, the vast majority of peppered moths had light colouration, which effectively camouflaged them against the light-coloured trees and lichens which they rested upon. However, because of widespread pollution during the Industrial Revolution in England, many of the lichens died out, and the trees that peppered moths rested on became blackened by soot, causing most of the light-coloured moths, or typica, to die off from predation. At the same time, the dark-coloured, or melanic, moths, carbonaria, flourished because of their ability to hide on the darkened trees.[1]

Since then, with improved environmental standards, light-coloured peppered moths have again become common, but the dramatic change in the peppered moth's population has remained a subject of much interest and study, and has led to the coining of the term industrial melanism to refer to the genetic darkening of species in response to pollutants. As a result of the relatively simple and easy-to-understand circumstances of the adaptation, the peppered moth has become a common example used in explaining or demonstrating natural selection.[2]

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