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Panich52

(5,829 posts)
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 02:39 PM Feb 2015

New GOP representative to state judges: what's your 'personal relationship' with a 'Supreme Being'?

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(Ignorant of Constitution} New GOP representative to state judges: what's your 'personal relationship' with a 'Supreme Being'?
by Walter Einenkel

Freshman Representative Jonathon Hill, of South Carolina, is learning that being crazy may get you elected but doesn't protect you from being crazy.

A Republican S.C. House member wants to know about the “personal relationship” that would-be state judges have with the “Supreme Being,” whether they would perform a gay marriage and how they would rule if a woman sued for equal pay.

“Those things … would give an indication of how ... they see the world, and how you see the world is going to have everything to do with how you see law, and how a judge should treat law,” said state Rep. Jonathon Hill, who issued the 30-question survey.

South Carolina allows the legislature to choose their judicial candidates—which is already problematic. Jonathon Hill's poor staffers tried to quickly stop the survey because, well, there are so many reasons:

1) It's unconstitutional to create something that amounts to a religious test.
2) Judges aren't allowed to answer most of the questions because it's a potential statement of decision on cases they have yet to oversee.
3) Here are some of the questions on the questionnaire:

•  Do you believe in the “Supreme Being” (S.C. Constitution, Article VI, Section 2)? What is the nature of this being? What is your personal relationship to this being? What relevance does this being have on the position of judge? Please be specific.

•  In a case where someone was assaulted because he was gay, would you consider it a “hate crime” and increase the penalty?

•  Do you believe unborn children have rights? If so, how would those factor in to your decisions as a judge?

•  How would you handle a murder case in which the victim had actually requested help committing suicide?

•  Do you agree or disagree with the argument that homosexual marriage is a “right” protected under the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which would render S.C.’s 2006 marriage amendment unconstitutional? Please explain why.

•  Would you perform a homosexual marriage, either voluntarily or involuntarily?

•  Does the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution apply only to the militia and military, or to the people at large?

•  Given a case where a local gun restriction ordinance was being challenged, would you uphold the ordinance or strike it down? What factors would play into that decision?

•  If a woman sued her employer because she was paid a lower rate than her male coworkers, would you rule in her favor or not? Please explain why.

... South Carolina does not, as of right now, have "hate crime" laws—so, I'm guessing Rep. Hill is preemptively asking something of some sort? It is beyond confusing.

Staffers also sent an email to the candidates letting them know that Hill had been told they were unable to answer most of the questions.

“You live and learn,” said Hill, a 29-year-old Anderson businessman and freshman legislator. “Maybe next year I’ll be in a better position to — if I put out a questionnaire — to craft it in a way that would work a little bit better.”

Maybe next year he'll be in a better position to ask or force unconstitutional practices? Is that his takeaway from all of this?  

(emphasis in original)

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New GOP representative to state judges: what's your 'personal relationship' with a 'Supreme Being'? (Original Post) Panich52 Feb 2015 OP
Guy needs to read the Constitution. Manifestor_of_Light Feb 2015 #1
Your first four words were enough. ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2015 #3
Gays will be involuntarily married? To each other? or to heteros? ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2015 #2
My antennae went up on that one as well. Curmudgeoness Feb 2015 #9
In reality? Or in the minds of tea buggery? ChairmanAgnostic Feb 2015 #12
this shit needs to be slapped down RussBLib Feb 2015 #4
Fortunately, he isn't in Congress. Yet. onager Feb 2015 #10
He has bigger problems to worry about. onager Feb 2015 #5
The voters who put this cretin bvf Feb 2015 #6
Confirmed, since I'm related to some of those voters. onager Feb 2015 #8
I would tell anyone who ask me that question that Mr.Bill Feb 2015 #7
"Personal relationship"? Rob H. Feb 2015 #11
That phrase always reminds me of... onager Feb 2015 #13

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
9. My antennae went up on that one as well.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 07:47 PM
Feb 2015

How in the hell do you perform a gay marriage "involuntarily"? Sounds like someone would have had to abduct you and force you at gunpoint to perform the marriage.....and I am not sure that any marriage under those conditions would be valid. Besides, how many times does that happen?

onager

(9,356 posts)
10. Fortunately, he isn't in Congress. Yet.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 07:57 PM
Feb 2015

He's in the South Carolina State Legislature, representing District 8.

Just went and read his official bio.

Hill is a 29-yr-old home-schooled Tea Partier. And a computer nerd, with no experience I could find in politics. Other than working in other GOP campaigns.

Maybe that's why he seems to think: "I won an election, so I'm entitled to re-write any laws I don't like! Kewl! Thanks, Jesus!"

onager

(9,356 posts)
5. He has bigger problems to worry about.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 03:32 PM
Feb 2015

Which won't stop his "Moar Jesus In The Courtroom" jihad, of course.

Hill is from Anderson. SC. Very close to where I grew up, and I still have quite a few relatives/friends living in that town.

It used to be a prosperous little place (population 27,000), with the economy based around textile mills. Whole neighborhoods, the "mill hills," were arranged around those mills. But all the mills shut down years ago, the jobs went overseas, and nothing has replaced them.

I may be moving back to SC soon, and there is no way in non-existent Hell I would consider living in Anderson. Nowadays it's a very mean little town with a big population of meth-heads and petty criminals.

That's not just my grumpy personal opinion. According to the Neighborhood Scout website:

Anderson Crime Index, with 100 being safest: 1 Yes, NUMBER ONE!1! NON-safest.

My chances of becoming a crime victim in South Carolina = 1 in 197
In Anderson = 1 in 97

Entire USA, violent crimes total rate per 1,000 = 2.29
Anderson violent crimes total rate per 1,000 = 7.86

Crimes Per Square Mile, National Median = 37.9
Crimes Per Square Mile, Anderson = 184

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/sc/anderson/crime/

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
6. The voters who put this cretin
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 03:40 PM
Feb 2015

into office would probably see nothing wrong here.

I hope the individual(s) who originally alerted the media to the story keep up their vigilance.

onager

(9,356 posts)
8. Confirmed, since I'm related to some of those voters.
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 05:38 PM
Feb 2015

This is an old rant of mine but you're sort of new here...

I have a relative who lives in Anderson. We were having a family get-together once, at Xmas no less. At my Mom's house.

Within just a few minutes of coming thru the door, she started up with "THEY WON'T EVEN LET THE POOR WIDDLE KIDS PRAY IN SCHOOL!"

I told her kids were perfectly free to pray in schools. After a few minutes of back-and-forth, I said something like: "It sounds like what you really want is to force everybody in that school to pray the way YOU want them to. No, you can't do that and you shouldn't be able to. Did somebody make you the Ayatollah Of Anderson?"

Things escalated quickly...

Finally it got so heated that one of my cousins diplomatically asked me to go out and take a ride.

Mr.Bill

(24,303 posts)
7. I would tell anyone who ask me that question that
Thu Feb 5, 2015, 05:34 PM
Feb 2015

I'm not sure if the supreme being is me or not, but I'm damn sure it's not them.

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