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(Ignorant of Constitution} New GOP representative to state judges: what's your 'personal relationship' with a 'Supreme Being'?
by Walter Einenkel
Freshman Representative Jonathon Hill, of South Carolina, is learning that being crazy may get you elected but doesn't protect you from being crazy.
A Republican S.C. House member wants to know about the personal relationship that would-be state judges have with the Supreme Being, whether they would perform a gay marriage and how they would rule if a woman sued for equal pay.
Those things would give an indication of how ... they see the world, and how you see the world is going to have everything to do with how you see law, and how a judge should treat law, said state Rep. Jonathon Hill, who issued the 30-question survey.
South Carolina allows the legislature to choose their judicial candidateswhich is already problematic. Jonathon Hill's poor staffers tried to quickly stop the survey because, well, there are so many reasons:
1) It's unconstitutional to create something that amounts to a religious test.
2) Judges aren't allowed to answer most of the questions because it's a potential statement of decision on cases they have yet to oversee.
3) Here are some of the questions on the questionnaire:
Do you believe in the Supreme Being (S.C. Constitution, Article VI, Section 2)? What is the nature of this being? What is your personal relationship to this being? What relevance does this being have on the position of judge? Please be specific.
In a case where someone was assaulted because he was gay, would you consider it a hate crime and increase the penalty?
Do you believe unborn children have rights? If so, how would those factor in to your decisions as a judge?
How would you handle a murder case in which the victim had actually requested help committing suicide?
Do you agree or disagree with the argument that homosexual marriage is a right protected under the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, which would render S.C.s 2006 marriage amendment unconstitutional? Please explain why.
Would you perform a homosexual marriage, either voluntarily or involuntarily?
Does the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution apply only to the militia and military, or to the people at large?
Given a case where a local gun restriction ordinance was being challenged, would you uphold the ordinance or strike it down? What factors would play into that decision?
If a woman sued her employer because she was paid a lower rate than her male coworkers, would you rule in her favor or not? Please explain why.
... South Carolina does not, as of right now, have "hate crime" lawsso, I'm guessing Rep. Hill is preemptively asking something of some sort? It is beyond confusing.
Staffers also sent an email to the candidates letting them know that Hill had been told they were unable to answer most of the questions.
You live and learn, said Hill, a 29-year-old Anderson businessman and freshman legislator. Maybe next year Ill be in a better position to if I put out a questionnaire to craft it in a way that would work a little bit better.
Maybe next year he'll be in a better position to ask or force unconstitutional practices? Is that his takeaway from all of this?
(emphasis in original)
Article w/ more links:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/03/1362013/-New-GOP-representative-to-state-judges-what-s-your-personal-relationship-with-a-Supreme-Being?detail=email
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/02/03/1362013/-New-GOP-representative-to-state-judges-what-s-your-personal-relationship-with-a-Supreme-Being?detail=email
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)The part about "No religious test shall ever be required"
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)How in the hell do you perform a gay marriage "involuntarily"? Sounds like someone would have had to abduct you and force you at gunpoint to perform the marriage.....and I am not sure that any marriage under those conditions would be valid. Besides, how many times does that happen?
ChairmanAgnostic
(28,017 posts)RussBLib
(9,020 posts)HARD.
But who among Congress would dare?
onager
(9,356 posts)He's in the South Carolina State Legislature, representing District 8.
Just went and read his official bio.
Hill is a 29-yr-old home-schooled Tea Partier. And a computer nerd, with no experience I could find in politics. Other than working in other GOP campaigns.
Maybe that's why he seems to think: "I won an election, so I'm entitled to re-write any laws I don't like! Kewl! Thanks, Jesus!"
onager
(9,356 posts)Which won't stop his "Moar Jesus In The Courtroom" jihad, of course.
Hill is from Anderson. SC. Very close to where I grew up, and I still have quite a few relatives/friends living in that town.
It used to be a prosperous little place (population 27,000), with the economy based around textile mills. Whole neighborhoods, the "mill hills," were arranged around those mills. But all the mills shut down years ago, the jobs went overseas, and nothing has replaced them.
I may be moving back to SC soon, and there is no way in non-existent Hell I would consider living in Anderson. Nowadays it's a very mean little town with a big population of meth-heads and petty criminals.
That's not just my grumpy personal opinion. According to the Neighborhood Scout website:
Anderson Crime Index, with 100 being safest: 1 Yes, NUMBER ONE!1! NON-safest.
My chances of becoming a crime victim in South Carolina = 1 in 197
In Anderson = 1 in 97
Entire USA, violent crimes total rate per 1,000 = 2.29
Anderson violent crimes total rate per 1,000 = 7.86
Crimes Per Square Mile, National Median = 37.9
Crimes Per Square Mile, Anderson = 184
http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/sc/anderson/crime/
bvf
(6,604 posts)into office would probably see nothing wrong here.
I hope the individual(s) who originally alerted the media to the story keep up their vigilance.
onager
(9,356 posts)This is an old rant of mine but you're sort of new here...
I have a relative who lives in Anderson. We were having a family get-together once, at Xmas no less. At my Mom's house.
Within just a few minutes of coming thru the door, she started up with "THEY WON'T EVEN LET THE POOR WIDDLE KIDS PRAY IN SCHOOL!"
I told her kids were perfectly free to pray in schools. After a few minutes of back-and-forth, I said something like: "It sounds like what you really want is to force everybody in that school to pray the way YOU want them to. No, you can't do that and you shouldn't be able to. Did somebody make you the Ayatollah Of Anderson?"
Things escalated quickly...
Finally it got so heated that one of my cousins diplomatically asked me to go out and take a ride.
Mr.Bill
(24,303 posts)I'm not sure if the supreme being is me or not, but I'm damn sure it's not them.