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Archae

(46,340 posts)
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 08:55 AM Jan 2018

How's this for absolute woo?

Last edited Wed Jan 17, 2018, 09:45 AM - Edit history (1)

"Polishes" the water?

#1950: Teri Mathis

Oxygen Orchard is a company that pushes The Big Pitcher, a device that ostensibly cures Chronic Oxygen Debt Syndrome (CODS). Apparently the product, which belongs to the genus “water woo”, “polishes” customers’ water to enable oxygen to be absorbed through the mouth. This is apparently a good thing, since “the GI tract does not absorb gases.” The result is ostensibly that blood cells are “hypercharged” with oxygen and the body’s pH level maintained at a healthy 7.4. No, the inventor, Teri Mathis, does not have more than, shall we say, cursory knowledge of basic anatomy. If you were ever in doubt, CODS is a fully and completely non-existing condition. But Oxygen Orchard’s claim that people are not breathing enough and therefore have a significant debt of oxygen in the blood, which again is the “primary cause of most major illnesses”, is a relatively common one within the discipline of oxygen therapy pseudoscience.

http://americanloons.blogspot.ca/2018/01/1950-teri-mathis.html

On edit: The damn thing is almost $240!!!

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How's this for absolute woo? (Original Post) Archae Jan 2018 OP
21st century snake oil. tymorial Jan 2018 #1
... and there's yet more water woo: memory of water Danascot Jan 2018 #2
I once read a scientific paper that "proved" water memory. It was awful. DetlefK Feb 2018 #5
The G.I. Tract may not absorb gases Orange Free State Jan 2018 #3
Only $240? I'll take two! Nitram Jan 2018 #4
Combined with my new alkaline water diet, I should be super duper, Gwenyth Paltrow healthy. progressoid Feb 2018 #6
but do you have... uriel1972 Feb 2018 #7
I don't think so. progressoid Feb 2018 #8

Danascot

(4,692 posts)
2. ... and there's yet more water woo: memory of water
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 09:55 AM
Jan 2018

The concept of the memory of water goes back to 1988 when the late Professor Jacques Benveniste published, in the international scientific journal Nature, claims that extremely high 'ultramolecular' dilutions of an antibody had effects in the human basophil degranulation test, a laboratory model of immune response. In other words, the water diluent 'remembered' the antibody long after it was gone. His findings were subsequently denounced as 'pseudoscience' and yet, despite the negative impact this had at the time, the idea has not gone away.

https://www.elsevier.com/about/press-releases/research-and-journals/the-memory-of-water-is-a-reality

Benveniste was a French immunologist who sought to demonstrate the plausibility of homeopathic remedies "independently of homeopathic interests" in a major scientific journal.[3] To that end, Benveniste and his team at Institut National de la Santé et de la Recherche Médicale (INSERM, French for National Institute of Health and Medical Research) diluted a solution of human antibodies in water to such a degree that there was virtually no possibility that a single molecule of the antibody remained in the water solution. Nonetheless, they reported, human basophils responded to the solutions just as though they had encountered the original antibody (part of the allergic reaction). The effect was reported only when the solution was shaken violently during dilution.[4] Benveniste stated: "It's like agitating a car key in the river, going miles downstream, extracting a few drops of water, and then starting one's car with the water."[5] At the time, Benveniste offered no theoretical explanation for the effect, which was later called "water memory" by a journalist reporting on the study.[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_memory

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
5. I once read a scientific paper that "proved" water memory. It was awful.
Mon Feb 5, 2018, 08:36 AM
Feb 2018

- The method and experiment was somehow okay (IIRC infrared-spectra of water), but the data-analysis was so sloppy, it was entirely useless.

- Their diagrams were so small (bad pixel-resolution) that you couldn't read what was written on the axis. Those curves could have been anything.
What's the x-axis?
What's the y-axis?
What numbers are these???

- And the diagrams weren't even separate images. Whoever wrote this had taken a screenshot of his complete desktop, Windows XP Windows-bar and all.



"Here's my results where you can't see anything. And here's what you are supposed to be seeing."

Orange Free State

(611 posts)
3. The G.I. Tract may not absorb gases
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 10:01 AM
Jan 2018

But it releases some. And that it what these people are doing, in excess.......

Nitram

(22,845 posts)
4. Only $240? I'll take two!
Wed Jan 17, 2018, 11:10 AM
Jan 2018

I see more and more pseudo-scientific scams on the market. If the GOP has it's way, there will be a lot more as regulations are reduced to zero.

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