Where's Bernie's tax plan? The middle class want to know.

Go away Clintons.

The reason is that he supports Gillibrand's bill, FAMILY Act, which Would Establish National Paid Family and Medical Leave. Now Clinton also supports the benefit, but intends to pay for it with a surtax on the richest tax payers.

Now Bernie has long called for taxing capital gains - like wage income and having higher wages for people with high incomes to pay for many of his proposals. In addition, Bernie is for removing the cap on the maximum income for which you pay Medicare and SS -- greatly helping both programs. HRC has not agreed to that.

However, the Gillibrand bill exists in college. Would Hillary condemn ALL the sponsors and co-sponsors of the bill - or just Bernie? Note these include most of the people I identify as progressives - including Sherrod Brown, Elizabeth Warren, Merkely, Whitehouse and Reed. https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/786

Mrs. Clinton and her surrogates are going to disgust a lot of people...and I'm one of them. Why can't they just tell the truth?

And unlike last time, I doubt she'll be offered a cabinet position...

I think lies can be too obvious. And when lies are both too obvious, and too self-serving they are a problem with voters.

But lies in general...? Americans yearn to be lied to because it is only the lies that pretty dependably fulfill our self-image.

Which is why team Clinton is fighting the last 20th century campaign ever in the Democratic Party.

Its a simple allergy, nothing more. Good golly, why can’t you just accept that? Nothing more than simple contact dermatitis.

When you solidify your reputation as a liar, you own that reputation, and it's not going anywhere.

So again, liar says what?

I will give the 'interviewer' some credit. When Fallon said 'Sanders will rip up the ACA' the guy said - 'really, rip it up?' That was the extent of the questioning during the interview.

The last several days of multiple-repeats of talking points emanating from Camp Clinton reminds me of the years of orchestrated Bush-era talking points. "Turned the corner" in Iraq comes to mind. Ten people saying it in two days. Nauseating.

The main consequence is that you lose all credibility when you're a liar. Hillary Clinton bought that title, and I don't plan to be quiet about it. The next time someone posts a Clinton loyalty oath and badgers me about voting for someone who lies to me, I'm going to laugh in that poster's face.

Don't try to fuck my guy with your lies and expect that I'll ever forget it.

without using what spock said in Star Trek IV of colorful metaphors i say do they think we are all stupid

they are just proving what i have saying.clinton is in freefall and desperate.

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Clinton calls those who make $250K a year "middle class". No, it isn't.

Employers, instead of paying part of employees health insurance premiums and having to pay people to administer the employer's plans, would pay higher payroll tax to cover Medicare for All. Either cheaper or a wash.

Everyone else, instead of paying health insurance premiums monthly, would pay 2% or so higher tax. Again, either less or a wash.

Best: Cost of healthcare would go DOWN under single payer, and with gov't ability to negotiate best prices. And EVERYONE - employed or not - would have at least basic healthcare. If they wanted additional, they can buy from private insurance.

I'm not buying the Clinton scare tactics.

IMO, ACA was a STEP to single-payer.

So. Let's get a MoveOn and get SINGLE PAYER or Medicare for all DONE.

No goddamned good reason not to.

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Now, she's saying she's against Medicare for all/single payer. Insistence on only health care "reform" that is tied to for-profit insurance companies and greedy big pharma - really isn't reform. It's only an embedding of the most greed-driven and cost-adding bad actors in the system. Nonetheless, ACA was an improvement - but was as I remember touted by at least some as a stepping stone to single payer.

Medicare doesn't pay speaking fees.

You know Safari Planet?



Both are on NBC ......and say silly things.......... I get confused sometimes

and it goes all in with the lowest of low lies, innuendos, and word-twisting.

Nice to know that.

I just saw a story from Brent Bozell's cnsnews posted in support of the Holder endorsement.

Did I stumble into Republican Underground this morning?