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napi21

(45,806 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:18 PM Jan 2016

Geesh! The Hillary spoksperson on with Chuck Tod is lying even MORE than FOX!

Chuck asked her if she really believes people will believe Bernie doesn't want health care to cover children? She said he HASN'T DETAILED WHAT HIS PLAN IS! Well, I HERD him explain his plan...SINGLE PAYER-EXPAND MEDICARE! She kept asking "Is he going to let the people of Iowa know what his pl;an is before the caucuses? I think it's great for each candidate to point out their differences, but they also ought to make sure what they're saying is TRUE!!!

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randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. Bad approach. Cant say snickers bars arent candy, and get away with it. The approach
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:20 PM
Jan 2016

should be how does he pay for it.

We are all curious how to do that, especially folks like me who really wanna do it.

It can be done, but what the Hillary camp is doing wont work.


In other words, it is equally believable that a snickers bar is NOT a candy bar and Bernie doesnt want kids to have healthcare.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
2. And Bernies guy pointed out that Clinton hasn't detailed her plan either so she has no room to talk
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:23 PM
Jan 2016

So it's another case of pot calling kettle. It insults the average voter by showing how stupid the Clinton campaign thinks we all are by assuming we don't notice she doesn't have a detailed plan while attacking Sander's plan for lacking details.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
3. Except the pot is broken and the kettle has been working for over 40 years.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:34 PM
Jan 2016

And by the way: what is wrong with black? I like black.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
5. Who said there was something wrong with it?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jan 2016

Do you associate black with wrong? I don't. So you tell me?

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
6. The full expression is "the pot is calling the kettle black".
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:43 PM
Jan 2016

It goes back to the days when both pots and kettles were heated over hot stoves; the smoke of the stoves would cause any regularly used vessel to blacken over time.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
11. I think you want to explain it to the person who suggested there was
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:55 PM
Jan 2016

something wrong with black.

I knew it had to do with same color- and a euphemism for someone being guilty of the same thing they are accusing someone else of being guilty of.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
4. Can we just start titling OP's "Clinton campaign lies. Iteration #62", and so on?
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:35 PM
Jan 2016

She REALLY shouldn't have tried to fuck the liberals she would have needed for a successful run. Note the past tense.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
7. Past tense duly noted.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:47 PM
Jan 2016

Suggestion for OP taken into consideration.

Expression of anger: not my choice of words, but I share the sentiment.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
12. You don't have to apologise to me.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:55 PM
Jan 2016

I'm sorry to hear you tend toward the blue sometimes. And furthermore: please don't bottle up your emotions. Even if you can't always express them constructively, it's still good to express them.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
14. I appreciate it.
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jan 2016

I need to slow down and type more carefully. I meant my words were like "blue comedy" or "blue humor"...I think these terms have fallen out of favor, but they used to refer to comedians who would use bad words during their performances, back when bad words were a bigger deal than they were now.

I'm sorry for introducing this confusion and sideshow, but I'm glad to make your acquaintance a little. Thanks, Betty Karlson.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
8. This is to be expected
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:47 PM
Jan 2016

Her spokespeople are going to probably continue this pattern of just reciting their talking point in the microphone as many times as they possibly can.

We need sterner journalists that will actually challenge this sort of absolute bullshit.

Rilgin

(787 posts)
13. I saw this as well
Wed Jan 13, 2016, 06:58 PM
Jan 2016

What was truly amazing is that she spun the whole attack on Bernie into saying he has not released his plan. That is the newest spin and defense of the Clinton(s) remarks.

Instead of actually addressing the lies in the Clintons statements, this spokeswomen said the point of Chelsea's and Hillary's remarks was only that Bernie had not yet released his plan. I was waiting for Chuck (not really waiting since he is incompetent) to ask if that was the point, why was that not the statement or even asking if he has not released his plan how can you say he wants to impose a 9% tax or repeal Chips the ACA medicaire etc without a replacement..

Its pretty easy to say, "he has not released his plan yet.". Saying he wants to repeal the ACA without replacement and stating that Bernies' plan would impose a 9% tax on middle class both belies your point that he does not have a plan if that that is your point.

Again the problem with attacking with spin and a lie. When you are in a hole, its difficult to dig your way out. We are seeing that now with Hillary supporters and spin doctors trying numerous approachs to explain why they are in a hole or denying there is a hole at all.

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