2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumDoes the Obama SuperPac mean the END of Citizens United?
Was this the head fake of the century? Assuming the OSP rakes in as much (more?) cash than the Thuggy SPs, will they GOP rush to close it down so the Dem's can't use it to out do them?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)elleng
(131,106 posts)but not easily done; probably requires Constitutional Amendment. Would be interesting if repugs joined the pro-Amendment bandwagon!
Proud Public Servant
(2,097 posts)All that would mean is that the GOP lost a battle (Obama's re-election) but won the war (coporate ownership of the electoral process).
unblock
(52,317 posts)first, it's not clear that democrats can out-raise republicans, at least not routinely.
second, the super-pac concept isn't limited to presidential races, and the typical republican often out-raises the typical democrat at all levels -- only incumbency generally overcomes this.
third, should it really bother the right-wing if they can own democrats? especially now that the republican is so right-wing as to be comical? the right-wing doesn't really mind democrats in charge as long as they're beholden to their right-wing, corporate interests, and the super-pac concept helps them immensely in this respect.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)That's why the had to rely so heavily on deep pocketed ideologues to prop up their "populist" teabaggers.
FredStembottom
(2,928 posts)Gingrich complaining about Super Pac spending was like a bright dawn over a forest path. "The way" couldn't be more clear: if Citizens U doesn't work to the R's advantage even once. they'll be the first to start tearing it down.
Meanwhile, the unprecedented avalanche of sickening campaign ads will disgust the multitudes as 2012 grinds along.
Maybe even a dip in TV/radio shares could happen? Imagine GE behind repeal should their media empire get dented by pure revulsion to the product.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)When all is done and said - even if Wall Street might ideally prefer a GOP President - they will still place a lot more of their bets on a Dem who will probably win over a Republican who will probably lose. With leading political scientist and the derivative markets now betting in favor of an Obama reelection - the smart money from lobbying groups will face the reality that they better start upping their money to Obama - NOW - and lots of it - or risk being marginalized and lacking the access they need. The Republicans may very well come to realize that Citizens United only brings a lot more money into the political process for both sides when both sides have been locked into a pay for play system long before anyone ever even heard of Citizens United.
former9thward
(32,077 posts)to reject public funding. He rejected it in 2008 so he would not be bound by its limits. Because of this rejection campaign finance is dead. People can blame CU all they want but once candidates saw what Obama did no other candidate of either party will ever accept public funding again. The issue is dead.