Then I think South Carolina could be very much in play. So much for the firewall.

That helps Hillary's argument to build upon what we have.

I'm saying, I don't lump myself in with the democrats that are satisfied with "not so bad, maybe we can work on it."

Tell me, how does that strategy usually work out?

Am happy with where he has taken us (for the most part). I don't see Hillary as being Barack Obama, as much as she wants to be. Their personalities are wholly dissimilar. She'd likely do a good job of protecting his legacy, but I'm concerned about the rest of her job.

Would she continue showing hawkish tendencies that in my opinion don't solve nearly as many problems as they create? Most likely.

Would she do her best to get money out of politics? I doubt it.

Rein in wall street? That's not really a fight I trust her on.

Even though I'm satisfied with the general direction of the country, I don't think that makes Hillary a shoe-in. Plain and simple, she's not Obama. We can do better.

Even then, it will be thin margins. Bernie needs Hillary to keep messing up, which is very possible considering her track record.

the clintons desperate attacks on bernie including their lies have to be for a reason.

But the way Hillary has botched things, and her almost total lack of tact and charisma, anything is possible at this point.

I mean, what the hell is going on in SC? Maybe Hillary's not as inevitable as many claim and folks are learning all they can about Sanders. Poor O'Malley. I'm surprised he's not polling better.

DULink: http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511031898

Sanders has heavily run up score with white voters to carry the state.

Seriously?

Pass that pipe

This could happen easily.

Lord

So all 22 goes to Sanders? It's that easy?

Like I said....pass the pipe

Just been watching the Senator's astonishing trajectory.

All the way, eh?

Sorry. I'm a pragmatist and realist. Odds are closer for me to win the lottery. He won't win SC. Keep the hope alive though.

not the other way around.

"Hope and Change" is more relevant today than ever. There is a powerful hunger out there.

I will stick with pragmatism.

Inspiration is more powerful than uninspired promises of compromise. "Yes we can" is far more motivating than "no we can't."

There is also nothing pragmatic about electing a candidate who can not win the GE. My opinion.

And determining the odds regardless of which candidate one supports.

Sanders. Won't. Win. The. Primary.

Math, logic, pragmatism.

I support whatever dem wins. Why? Because that dem will appoint SC justices in the next 8 years. I don't care who it is. Why? Because I'm pragmatic.

At this point the clear favorite to win is Clinton. Sanders has an Everest climb to beat her. I say it won't happen. Why? Pragmatism.

It's not sexy or inspiring. I grant you that. But it's reality.

The Status Quo must GO.

It's fairly late in the season for there to be so many undecideds, so it's probably not that great of a poll.

There are at least 6 billion versions at any given monent.

22% of SC voters being undecided, including a large block of black voters, suggests that's not wrong. I don't think they're waiting to learn about who Bernie is, but as Clyburn suggested happened with Obama in 2008, they are waiting to see how Bernie performs within the context of a campaign.

I'm guessing it's mainly AA voters who are slipping away from HRC, but haven't quite settled on anyone else.

HRC probably can't get them back, they are open to other candidates, but I think they just need to hear a little from Bernie(or possibly M'oM, but his single-digit support levels would make him a harder sell on electability grounds.

but i can't find any confirmation of this poll, and your link goes to a PDF press release with no methodology.

Where do you find this?

He cant win there with numbers like that. We need a candidate who connects with AA voters. They will be critical to winning the general election.