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1GirlieGirl

(261 posts)
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 11:52 AM Sep 2012

Voter harassment, circa 2012

I believe this is the only issue that stands between voters and a second Obama term...

Editorial, Saturday's NYT

This is how voter intimidation worked in 1966: White teenagers in Americus, Ga., harassed black citizens in line to vote, and the police refused to intervene. Black plantation workers in Mississippi had to vote in plantation stores, overseen by their bosses. Black voters in Choctaw County, Ala., had to hand their ballots directly to white election officials for inspection.

This is how it works today: In an ostensible hunt for voter fraud, a Tea Party group, True the Vote, descends on a largely minority precinct and combs the registration records for the slightest misspelling or address error. It uses this information to challenge voters at the polls, and though almost every challenge is baseless, the arguments and delays frustrate those in line and reduce turnout.

The thing that’s different from the days of overt discrimination is the phony pretext of combating voter fraud. Voter identity fraud is all but nonexistent, but the assertion that it might exist is used as an excuse to reduce the political rights of minorities, the poor, students, older Americans and other groups that tend to vote Democratic.

In The Times on Monday, Stephanie Saul described how the plan works. True the Vote grew out of a Tea Party group in Texas, the King Street Patriots, with the assistance of Americans for Prosperity, a group founded by the Koch brothers that works to elect conservative Republicans. It has developed its own software to check voter registration lists against driver’s license and property records. Those kinds of database matches are notoriously unreliable because names and addresses are often slightly different in various databases, but the group uses this technique to challenge more voters.

Please read: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/22/opinion/voter-harassment-circa-2012.html?nl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20120922

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Frances

(8,547 posts)
1. I remember the voter intimidation in the 60s in Alabama
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 12:08 PM
Sep 2012

My first husband and I are white, but we stood beside black people in line to register to vote in Opelika, AL, and said encouraging things. We wanted them to know that not all white people were against their right to register to vote.

I went home before my husband did, but when he drove to our home in Auburn, he looked in his rear view mirror and saw the sheriff's car following him. He drove VERY carefully so the sheriff would not have driving errors as an excuse to stop him. He did get home safely.

When I registered to vote, Alabama required a literacy test. I was not political at all and failed the test (I did not even know the names of both our Senators!). When I asked if I could vote, the tester said I was white and, of course, I could vote.

meow2u3

(24,773 posts)
2. These "True the Vote" thugs are plotting several Federal crimes
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 01:05 PM
Sep 2012

Among them: conspiracy against rights, especially against Federally protected activities regarding voting. If they actually carry out their plots, they'll be committing intimidation of voters, to name one.

I wonder if the so-called True the Vote plot rises to the level of either hate crimes or domestic terrorism. If not, they should be.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
3. I think the problem is going to be making sure we have the polling places they are concentrated in
Sat Sep 22, 2012, 11:56 PM
Sep 2012

covered. My guess is they are going to target certain areas in swing states or where important Congressional races are taking place. Now the thing about that is they won't be able to cover all of them.

I think it's going to get very very ugly in places like Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida, Virginia, Iowa, Colorado, and maybe Nevada. They are desperate to fix the results to win, which is dangerous. We don't know if these people will be carrying guns or some other types of weapons.

The last paragraph is all speculation by me just to be clear, but I believe it is possible.

 

slydog1227

(23 posts)
4. With what autthority do they have to question
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:07 AM
Sep 2012

anyone's eligibility, or to even hold them up or check their credentials? Sounds like you can tell em to stick it up their ass and mind their own business and there is not much they can do about it. Is anyone allowed to just challenge anyone at the polls? That shit can work both ways.

Samjm

(320 posts)
5. My comment on NY Times
Sun Sep 23, 2012, 12:53 AM
Sep 2012

Here's the comment I left on this piece:

"I was a target of a voter intimidation attempt by the CO Sec of State Scott Gessler (Repub). His argument was that since I was not born here, therefore I must be voting illegally (I am a naturalized citizen and registered to vote only after I was naturalized). The nice threatening letter I received from them demanding that I prove my citizenship or withdraw from the voters rolls was intimidation in its purist form.

Fortunately, I refused to be bullied and went to a meeting at his office to speak my mind. I just hope the other almost 4,000 immigrants who also got letters are equally adamant about standing up for their right. In a state like CO which is truly a purple state, it is very telling that 86% of the letters were sent to people who were registered as Democrats or Unaffiliated.

To date they have not removed my name from the voters roll. There will be hell to pay if they do."

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