This board is dominated by people who display the same viciousness that has become the trademark of today's Republican Party. I only check in to see if the tone has changed, but it seems hopeless. If people believe that the promises that Sanders is making will ever materialize if he is elected, and that is VERY, VERY much in doubt if wins the nomination, they are in for a major disappointment. The hatred that the Republicans have shown for Obama will be just as intense, if not more so, if he is elected. That is an important point that is neglected to be even considered by his supporters.

and liberals, and more moderate discussion, should dominate DU again after we choose a nominee, though. Or so I'm told. The rules don't allow trashing our nominee for the general.

You're right about that last! Not only is the little detail of the hatred Bernie would face from those on the right totally ignored, but the rage and rejection he would face from many of his more...idealistic supporters if he could not make his promises good is mentioned only by those who observe and remember disappointments past.

Hillary is clearing winning the endorsements of the establishment. Here's hoping they don't translate to votes.

is omitted in the OP.

It notes Henry Kissinger's* admiration of her, and (somewhat dismissively) acknowledges that Sanders was right (and Clinton disastrously wrong) on the single most important vote either one of them ever cast as senators: the Iraq War Resolution.



*Henry Kissinger, for chrissake!

The Iraq War was the worst thing Bush did in 8 years and now Democrats want to vote for someone who advocated for the that War and helped sell it to the American people.

I'll retire to Bedlam.

"Here's hoping they don't translate to votes."

She's already ahead in the polls, so more voters agree with this endorsement than don't.

"extreme" "senseless" Iowans do.

She's got a four-point lead. That's not a huge amount, but it is certainly not a coin-toss.

Don't go into February 2nd thinking Bernie Sanders is going to win. He is the underdog in Iowa.

Almost all that you see are worthless propaganda. The accurate ones are "internals" and never see the light of day.

Polls don't caucus or vote, people do.

"Polls are manipulated with an agenda."

Jesus Christ.

The only way the GOP wins is if too many Bernie Sanders supporters think Hillary Clinton stole the election and refuse to vote for her.

People like you make me think this could happen.

.....On a high note.

HILLARY 2016

were "highest ratio of screen real estate employed to actual content," you'd win the thread hands-down.

(And, absent a staff, that could just as easily be a low note, don't you think?)

I'm just glad she got a nice endorsement. I don't think you like that, but here you go. For you.
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than a text-only graphic.

.....clever.

While people around the world ride their magical puppies across their glittering rainbows of universal healthcare and stare in disbelief at the largest economy on earth letting it's people die of easily treatable healthcare problems..

he didn't mention either rainbows or puppies.

I took this to mean that while he had nothing against rainbows and puppies, he had other topics he wished to discuss.

Recent polling might reveal that a good number of U.S. Americans like at least one of the two. I like both, for that matter. Rainbows are always pleasant to look at. Puppies, although they can be rambunctious, are delightful. I think if Senator Sanders were suddenly to begin discussing rainbows and puppies, there would a lot of out there who would nod their heads and say, "Ya know, I can't really think of anything terribly negative to say about rainbows and puppies. Perhaps there should be more of both.

Ted Cruz is offering a world "on fire." At a campaign appearance he told those in attendance that their "very world is on fire." Ted sees things in apocalyptic terms. He scares people when he talks to them so they will be more susceptible to the solutions he's hawking to address those fears. "I bet you have cancer, but thanks be to Jesus I'm here to cure it for you!"

And that means I hate Sanders' supporters and the unicorn they rode in on.

would admit I like them, too.

: )

'No we can't' is not a rallying call that is resonating with the voters.
People in this country are ready to try something differently. There are way more of us than there are of them, them being the rich and well connected. Without us there would be no corporations, no disgustingly rich, none of these problems we face would be an issue if not for our buying into the bullshit that has been fed to us 24/7 for 50 years now. I know a lot of people who used to be staunch republiCONs who are going to be voting for Sanders this time around because in all their wisdom they have finally began to wake the hell up and are seeing what the hell is going on.
Hilliary is not the face of change, rather she is a/the symbol of more of the same.
With the coming change that is going to sweep Sanders into the white house will come a lot of new blood in our congress, both senate and house. Whether or not we wind up with a majority this time around we'll still win because if we don't get the house or senate back they, (CONs,) will continue their scorched earth policies and that will drive the voters, new and old, to the polls in the mid term to the point that we'll have a super majority for Sanders and US to work with going forward. We can't loose this time, nor will we loose this time.

As a very insightful singer/songwritter penned years ago, Times they are a changing.

What, in short, suggests that "everything he proposes to do is achievable?"

How do you expect Sanders to get Congress on board with his proposals? Please be specific, and please don't invoke "the will of the people" which, in practice, is equivalent to invoking a cold fusion reactor or a perpetual motion machine.

Does he have some long, secret history of bending the Congress to his mighty will?

Your linked post cites two. Surely, in his 25 year career in Congress, he must have an extensive list of amazing successes. Please share them.

remembering the anniversary of the Revolution.

Considering how often we're assured that President Sanders wound bend the stubborn legislature to his will, I'd expect this career politician to have a long list of legislative accomplishments achieved against the will of the Congress.

No?

I pretty much explained where I was coming from in that.

It's the two-pronged recitation about how congress will seat a Sanders-friendly majority (grossly unlikely) or, if that doesn't happen, it will still be a victory for Sanders because something-something-mumble-Conservatives-will-look-bad-mumble-something (also grossly unlikely). Even if Democrats win majority control, how many Dems can you confidently name who will throw in with Sanders? To that end, I need something more concrete than speculation about who will probably do what. Let's see it in writing.

Over and over again I'm told that Sanders will get it done if only we believe in him. I have no patience for declarations of faith and no interest in wishful thinking. He needs to earn my belief, and rousing stump-speeches are insufficient.

Give me some solid reason to accept that Sanders' laundry list of promises has any likelihood of passing, and we'll talk.

of the endorsement, I applaud the final result.

During her eight years as a senator from New York, she proved her ability to find common ground with Republicans, accords that allowed needed legislation to advance.

This is about the people not corporate run newspapers. Again, the establishment just does not get it.

The people will decide.

While I agree with the endorsement, it doesn't meet the "BernieUnderground" litmus test of blind loyalty to the candidate who is not a Democrat but is being helped by Karl Rove's PAC. Of course, I fully expect this post to be hidden, too!

PEACE!

PEACE!

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