2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumClinton changes tone on Sanders
Good move. Now maybe she can tell her acolytes to chill with that Red Baiting crap, so we can get back to debating the real issues plaguing this country.
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As her allies acknowledged that her forceful attacks on Bernie Sanders have backfired, Hillary Clinton on Thursday softened the edges on her criticism of her main primary opponent, arguing that his heart is in the right place even if his proposals are wrong.
Her new tone marked a contrast from last week, when her forceful dismissal of his universal health care system appeared to boomerang.
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But her message was clearer: in theory isnt enough Im not interested in ideas that sound good on paper, but will never make it in the real world.
Lauding Sanders for having the right idea, at least, may have been a more appealing tone for the audience, where many of Clintons own diehard supporters said they like what they see in Sanders.
I know Bernie, and I think hes a good man and I think hed be a good running mate, said Sally Gibson, a retired teacher supporting Clinton. Hes a good man, we need people like that.
Indeed, Clinton tried to straddle the line between lauding Sanders intentions while portraying his plans as unrealistic.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-attacks-backfire-218091#ixzz3yA2XjMJA
I thoroughly disagree with her new message by the way. Great presidents have aspirational goals that inspire the masses to join the fight. When your plan is to triangulate their way to meritocracy, the least you could do is aim high.
Berners know that we may not get everything we want. But you can't rally the masses to leverage your agenda with "It's too hard". And not every fix to our broken system requires a 60 vote supermajority.
Back to the issues. Now isn't that more civilized?
pengu
(462 posts)I know Bernie, and I think hes a good man and I think hed be a good running mate, said Sally Gibson, a retired teacher supporting Clinton.
Blue State Bandit
(2,122 posts)But he should announce the affiliation of his possible choice of running mate. And as soon as possible.
Something like:
"And just so their are no questions, I will pick a Progressive Democrat as my running mate, that you can count on.... and I have plenty of inspiring options at my disposal"
Kentonio
(4,377 posts)Probably better than doubling down would have been, but the damage is still already done.
stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)If she does nothing to denounce that or ask them to stop she endorses it. Period.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)femmedem
(8,203 posts)Even if he isn't able to get much of his agenda through Congress, his election would be a signal to future candidates that it isn't political death to fight for economic justice.
Blue State Bandit
(2,122 posts)stillwaiting
(3,795 posts)eventually, one day, actually be able to enact his policies.
I strongly believe this, and this is why I so passionately argue for him.
We will be nowhere closer to enacting (Bernie's/many of ours) preferred policies at the end of a Hillary Presidency. Her Party Chair will continue to recruit "pro-business" Democrats. The Senate will be just as littered with neo-liberal Democrats then as it is now.
We have to START the process one day of getting this Party back to the Party of FDR. If we don't start now with Bernie (and HIS Party Chair) we will be waiting another decade. That is going to be devastating for so many people ultimately.
djean111
(14,255 posts)That is all this is.
cali
(114,904 posts)Have the darling surrogates turn it up.
Despicable.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)"I won't try cuz' it's too hard."
Yeah, that'll pump up those sagging numbers!
merrily
(45,251 posts)Fighting what was then the best trained army in the world.
FDR never said that as a stock market crash and the Dust Bowl had the country circling the drain.
Bernie Sanders never said that, through thirty years of neo-liberal and RW control.
ypsfonos
(144 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)jeff47
(26,549 posts)So now not only does she take the "hit" for being so negative, she also loses any benefit for going that negative to begin with.
Why on Earth does anyone think she's a good candidate? "Inevitability" as your strategy in your second presidential campaign???? Then "Hopes and dreams? We can't have those. We can only dream of what the Republicans let us do". Now this scorched-Earth followed by "nevermind!!"
FFS, fire all your staff and bring in people who know what the hell they are doing.