Just another partisan noisemaker for Bernie. Just what the Democratic Party needs.

Message for you, Splinter: We Democrats have REAL votes. We're not only nominating Hillary, but we are going to elect our first woman President of the United States while we're at it.

Just sayin'.

be able to tell if you'll be voting for Bernie or Trump? Cruz? Rubio? Kaisich?, or just sitting out the presidential part of the election. It's finally moving along.

But in the event that he doesn't I will be writing Bernie in for the general election. As will my hubby.

Have you considered the possibility that most Democrats think "being a Democrat" means something different to them than it does to you?

Her record is no secret. There is no excuse.

It can grip anyone.

the need to genuflect for corporate money to fund campaigns. It may be today's common Democrat, but many of us are finished with "business as usual." There Really is a Difference and there are certain terms used by which they actually identify themselves.

Nope.

Yes, indeed we agree. That is exactly what we are saying and why we support the guy that cares about the Democratic Party Peons...those who have been too disgusted, de-energized, too "Lefty", found hopeless, etc.

We're Back !!!

You might want to check your sentence structure. I only play Grammar Police when a negative post is directed at me.

Nothing is for sure. Ask Dewey...and the Des Moines Time Register.

I disagree.

You do understand that the No true Scotsman logical fallacy is something you should avoid right? It kind of makes you look silly when polling and the vast majority of endorsements from elected Democrats and Democratically aligned groups have gone to Clinton.

...There. Nope. You're incorrect.

And is the most qualified person to be running for president. Too bad some people do not understand that that translates to the best chance of getting those same democratic values traction in the real world.

Truman's claim to fame was legitimizing the use of nuclear weapons and killing tens of thousands of civilians in a war that even people like Eisenhower thought was already over. Surely, Hillary is vastly more sane than Truman, who will burn in eternity in hell for his mass murder.

That said, considering the likes of Truman, Carter, LBJ, and others, Hillary if anything is a little to the left, though not nearly as progressive as Sanders.

How ignorant can one be? The war in Europe was over. With Japan? No. An invasion of mainland Japan would have cost millions of lives, both civilian and military.

Hillary more liberal than Carter? Are you for real? Carter was always more of a public servant as opposed to politician. Look at his work after the presidency. He hasn't spent all his time taking sleazy money from criminals to speak and stroke their egos.

Hillary is more of a classic republican then she ever was a democrat. Like it or not.

That insist on enabling them.

position. Who do you think you are for telling me what to think?

And I don't think he addressed you personally...as opposed to your negative post.

He/she made the assinine statement, he/she owns it. There are many that have put him in his place too. How come you don't respond to them in a like manner?

do better next time.

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...Please use this power only for good...

Clinton Derangement Syndrome in OPs today.

This is one of them.

Gotta love that

political stances, age, religion or experiences

That's a statement regarding some superiority complex based on key strokes on a computer and it doesn't suit DU well to make fun of "Low Post Numbers". Ridiculous.

But then again, maybe the poster doesn't yet realize that, had he been here longer, he would know that he is wrong. Right.

especially from someone who has been here since 2004. This whole purity test that some are applying doesn't suit DU. I whiffed on the low poster thing- Even though this isn't the case there are a lot of trolls here that make statements that are every bit as ridiculous as the poster you are defending. A lot of them have low numbers. My bad.

anyone. That's pretty much it. If s/he's a troll, it will out soon enough or they will get tired. But it it does not provide a welcome for someone new, or someone who has been reading for years, and just decided to step out, take a chance and post. This is well known...especially at primaries.

Let's give them the benefit of the doubt. I, as do many others, make it a point to welcome a low poster.

Oh, and I'm not defending any poster, as I hope I made clear. I'm defending the right to be a "low post count"er and still be recognized in a fair, yeah welcoming, manner. We were ALL there once upon a time.

I'll be voting for Clinton.

Why fight so hard to stop just republicans, and elect a "democrat" with many of the same values? I will never vote for a republican myself, regardless of the letter that follows their name.

I've been hearing that silliness for decades, and it's nonsense.

until it suits his self promotion purposes. He has been running for office since the mid 1970's. This is the pinnacle of his career politician life. When he loses, he will change his registration back to Independent.

the Senate who "reportedly " has no enemies.

You make the point...he works with them all...silly politician.

IOW, he rows between the two battleships. Perhaps, his little rowboat, and many, many others just like it, will converge to lead the Flotilla until the two Battleships can right themselves and Follow The Crowd...leaving behind the money changers on the shore.

I think it's priceless that all of a sudden you're not a "real" Democrat unless you vote for the guy who has spent his career bashing Democrats and only became a Democrat when it became politically expedient for him to do so.

Now watch someone bring up what Hillary did in high school to tell us she's not a real Democrat either. Because everyone knows your political beliefs are fully formed the moment you're born...

Leave the infighting to the GOP....they are much better at it. And more entertaining.

I canvassed for McGovern in my first election. Screw your for telling me I'm not "real" because u don't support a utopian socialist fantasy candidate.

How did you evolve from supporting a candidate of vision like McGovern, to whomever the establishment regurgitates?

By and large Hillary is a conservative Dem. Her supporters trash what FDR said with his second bill of rights, knowingly so or unknowingly, something that Bernie shouts loudly on a daily basis.

How can fighting for progressive values in our party compare to bigotry? Get real.

and a majority of gays out of the party. You and Wallace are peas in a pod.

This discussion really needed such a thoughtful comment. Way to contribute one way or another.

You need to hone your debate skills.

It's these wild eyed, all or nothing crappola that is absolutely and positively NOT Democratic is any sense of the word. One would judge you creds based on this tripe. I'd delete if I were you.

Replace "democratic" with "conservative" and this post would be indistinguishable from something over at Freeptown.

Don't do this. You aren't the arbiter of all things Democrat. If Democrats pick Hillary Clinton as the nominee, she's going to be the only bulwark between the people of this country and the ravening dogs that are the Republicans.

Like your approval or lack thereof is an accurate litmus test for being a Democrat. Despite your horseshit opinion, I'm going to vote for the Democratic nominee in the fall. No matter who it is. Because no matter who the Democratic nominee is, he or she will be infinitely better for the country than whatever creature oozes out of the Republican dumpster fire. Which makes this kind of post really, really, really, really fucking stupid.

On economic policy, she's definitely a liberal with a proven record on that front. She voted against the Bush tax cuts, along with most Democrats. She voted for the minimum wage increase in 2007. She continues to support some measure of redistributive policies and enhanced economic opportunities for women and minorities. This is not in keeping with the Republican Party. These are mainstream Democratic positions.

The same thing goes for issues of social justice and individual liberty. She's definitely more in line with Democrats than Republicans on the whole range of issues there.

The only exception would appear to be foreign policy, where I will concede she is more hawkish than the party and also me. Still, on this front I'd certainly trust her over Republicans.

Sorry, just not seeing it. She also presents as being to the left of her husband, Carter, LBJ, and Kennedy (sorry, Kennedy wasn't that liberal). On a number of issues, she's better than where FDR was, especially on personal liberty. What basic betrayal of the Democratic Party are you talking about?

And good for all the Bernie supporters that are speaking out and not jumping on this ridiculous band wagon.

The Party has changed. It's not what you think it is anymore. Their Party's President has claimed the right to declare citizens to be Enemies of the State and then execute them with no due process or accountability, yet "Democrats" on the whole could not care less.

It's not the same Party you think it is.

Hillary Clinton who also has been a Democrat for a very long time. She also happens to be the most qualified and when ask a question about foreign policy she responds with an answer about foreign policy. In our global world the foreign policy knowledge will assist the president on a daily basis.

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