Excellent post.

What Kool-Aid are Clinton supporters drinking to think such smears would help?

I don't think I've seen anyone, at least not any Democrat, use the word "commie" to describe Bernie, but for some reason Bernie fans seem to really like it.

Of course, if it comes to the GE, the Republicans will most certainly go after him for being a socialist, and call him a communist, and all that. That's not a fantasy, it will happen, and it's one of the reasons that a Bernie nomination is the quickest path to a GOP president.

Bernie fans would rather simply ignore that fact, so they accuse anyone of pointing it out of "Red Baiting." Which I guess is enough to get themselves to ignore reality.

Oh you are correct, she never said the word.

And she's right. If you don't think they'd run hammer and sickle ads against him, you don't know the GOP?

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Especially the stuff after the 7 minute mark...

I don't think so, dude!

What a joke.

You're trying to take Bernie's electability issue out of the discussion by smearing anyone who brings it up as a McCarthyist. It's very transparent.

Go Denver !!!

And if you remember 2008 you'll remember how the Clintons used them against Obama too.

out the obvious fact that the GOP will use Bernie's socialism against him. It's a cowardly tactic, but they use it because they can't deal with the facts.

Bernie is unfazed by attack labels and that is why they don't work on him. He turns them into a discussion of bread and butter issues and programs that are popular to a wide swath of Americans. He no clearly is not the classic Bogey Man Marxist threat that he makes those who try to smear him look out of touch with reality. It only drives the political debate into the terrain that is Sander's strength.

But you know what, i also DID underestimate him, until I read OUTSIDER IN THE (WHITE)HOUSE.

I underestimate him no longer.

Use the Google.

Exactly.

But yes if Bernie is the democratic candidate for president he will be painted as an outright communist by the republicans, period.

If his followers are so damn scared about democrats saying this, what are they going to do when fox news is showing pics of Bernie with a hammer and sickle imposed over his blood red face face 24/7 until the GE?? LOLOL!

All this whining and crying from Bernie fans about poor little Bernie being insulted just proves to me once again that the man is not up to the office he seeks!

Bernie can't hack it. He's too soft.

What will Bernie do if Putin insults him and tells him to go to hell? Run off and cry in the Lincoln bedroom maybe??

Who the fuck is sacred?

We need to support all artists. Even mimes.

working with other musicians, a clown, a film maker, a puppeteer, dancers and...... a mime !!!!!

This guy ain't no performance art.

You people are pathetic.

The republicans would rip Bernie limb from limb. He and his followers don't have the stomach for it. Bernie would wilt like a hothouse flower in the heat of the GE LOL!

Wo bu dong!

We do care what our Democratic brothers and sisters say. We wish they would stop with the Republican attacks.

usually resorts to red-baiting.

Hillary 2016, a campaign any person who gives cares about honesty and ethics, should be ashamed of

How about letting Bernie decribe himself, and not then amplify and twist it to something he is not advocating. How about not assisting the GOP into demonizing liberalism?

"OMG we can't t nominate him. He's a SOCIALIST WITH A RADICAL Agenda far to the left of the mainstream!!!" (translate: liberal proposals are too far to the left.)

"America isn't ready to nominate a SOCIALIST." (translate: liberal)
"We can force Average Americans to pay higher taxes for socialistic healthcare." (Translate: Keep those insurance companies in charge and don't give people any alternative. Maybe we should totally privatize Medicare and Medicaid while we're at it.)

Choices. People do not agree with his choices and get to speak out against it. Your post truly make no sense to me in the adult world of personal responsibility and ownership.

I do not care that he played in these worlds all his life. But, they are a part of his world and he is thrilled with his position and wears it proudly. I am not going to either infantile him or denigrate his choice as needing protection now.

This is him. Honor that part instead of hiding, diminishing or demanding people ignore it. I can see totally easy counter arguments to when people raise he is a socialist.

Clinton loses votes because she is a woman. Obana loses votes being black. It does no good pretending otherwise and to me it is cowardly dismissing who you are for a vote. Win with who you are.

There is a difference and you know it. You can acknowledge that he has chosen the term DEMOCRATIC socialist to describe himself, but his policies are basic liberalism. Or you can use the word ":socialist" with a sneer, and play up to the right wing red baiting to aid the GOP in demonizing liberalism.

He was an extremely pragmatic and effective mayor, and a principled member of Congress.

So often, they DEMAND we ignore Sanders very words. I do not. I listen to what the man says, and i react to those words he gives me.

I find that much more respectful toward people. Even in disagreement. You and I see this differently.

demand all you fuckin' want, lmao.

But you miss the point. It is not necessary -- and does a lot of harm to the overall political climate -- when Democrats join the GOP in demonizing that term and using it to distort basic liberal values and goals.

Bernie is not out to transfer all private property to the state, nationalize all industries and eliminate the rewards of success. You know that.

I am calling out a poster for spreading misinformation about Bernie identifying as a socialist rather than a democratic socialist as he always has.

The poster to which I was replying was the one demonizing Bernie for being a scary socialist, and was using the wrong identifying terms as an aid in doing so.

soorrey

these are the Scoop Jackson Dems that wanted to drag both parties to the right

to find his inner political purpose. It's just that it has been so long. But it changed the history of the US at a time when we sorely needed it...financially speaking, and a leader with a purpose so clear he refused to be beaten down.

No, Bernie is Not FDR. But there are enough similarities, on a number of fronts, to imagine that he could be in that upper echelon of American Leaders. It requires taking many, many barbs and thrusts from the establishment and coming out the other side...a champion whose vision may begin to unfold.

toward hatred, racism, warmongering, etc.

Some satire mocking Hillary's attacks on Bernie, and suggesting how absurd they are getting.

Hillary Clinton Tells Supporters Bernie Sanders the Son of Stalin

but the people of this country have been conditioned to hate liberals for a long time, without much critical thinking to counter it.

Fantastic OP. Well said.

...is the way that Clinton supporters act as if the Republicans would *never* be able to call her a socialist. I mean, look how right-wing her policies are! That would be like calling Romneycare socialist.

Welcome to the revolution, comrade!

Thanks for the thread, Armstead.