2016 Postmortem
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the former secretary of state like anyone else
The following excerpts are from an editorial in the NY Daily News, certainly NOT a right wing publication, no matter how "lowbrow", one may think it.
The latest news about Hillary Clintons private email server drip-drip-drip:
Some of its contents were more secret than Top Secret, according to a letter from the inspector general of the intelligence community.
Thats not good whether or not that information came with a super-top-secret red stamp, and whether or not Clinton was the sender or recipient of those messages.
In the era of WikiLeaks and Edward Snowden, at a time when the Chinese have stolen 18 million security-clearance records that are in effect a master key for bulk blackmail, when the Pentagon is considering retroactively demoting criminally convicted David Petraeus for pillow talk with his mistress, the secretary of state used her own private email system to do government business one that conveniently kept it out of public view.
The Clinton campaign says theres nothing to see here, that the emails werent secret when they were sent and certainly didnt have that red secret stamp on top, that leaking the inspector generals letter was just more of the same misleading stuff Republicans have dribbled out for months and that the super-secret emails in question may be nothing more than a press clip about the drone program sent by an aide.
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So, theres no way to definitively judge Clintons actions . What we do know is that Clintons explanation for setting up her homebrew server has shifted and remains incomplete.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/scrutiny-clinton-article-1.2506716
leveymg
(36,418 posts)and a direct violation of her security clearance. She isn't above the law, no matter what she might have thought about that at the time. The Attorney General shouldn't drag this out any longer - it's not good for anyone except the GOP to allow this to fester.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)PeoViejo
(2,178 posts)Like the Coup in Honduras.
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)From the evil NY Post:
http://nypost.com/2016/01/24/hillarys-team-copied-intel-off-top-secret-server-to-email/
I concur that they're on the dark side - so don't click it if you don't like them. I don't want to hear about it. I think one has to keep tabs now and then on what the other party is saying.
Knowing the above, that article rattled me a little like they've done their homework and got a bunch of this email thing figured out better than anything I've read so far - using logic and facts. It is not a routine smear job. Either they've learned some stuff or got really clever on putting that article together or something. That article was a little unnerving as I think I learned something.
I've maintained all along that this email scandal is not over by a long shot. To me, that article takes it up a notch. If what they've put together is true (and [u]I'm not saying they've proven their case), this is not going to be something Hillary can easily dismiss. It's gonna hurt.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Because you seemed so convinced that there was a there there, I clicked on your link.
You're correct, this is a lot more than a bunch of shit flung against the wall to see if anything sticks. Somebody has gone to a lot of effort putting this together. And being the NYP, you can bet they're holding something back to use in the event that Clinton becomes the party's nominee.
I dont necessarily want this stuff to be true. What I want is, if it is true, for it to be resolved before the party makes a ginormous mistake by selecting a candidate with so much dirty laundry.
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)I do not want the GOP handed the White House. That would be a disaster for everything we've worked for.
I've been worried about Clinton winning the primary and then them taking her out with this stuff. It's why I've routinely checked it with media searches. I feel like they're sitting back waiting to pick their spot and letting little dribbles of news out periodically to maximize keeping it in the news.
Why haven't they sorted out Bryan Pagliano, her server guy, and an immunity deal? The reason seems to relate to timing or they think they're going to get more info so they don't have to cut a deal with him yet (something like that). They control that and nothing has happened so the other shoe is going to drop on that at some point.
More emails and documents and FOIAs to come .. Stay tuned!
This is not going away.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)This article takes it a bit further by stating classified info taken from documents on DoS's secured servers were found in over 1300 emails on her private server. This isn't just a handful of top secret documents as we've seen reported. This looks like information from classified documents were copied, pasted and then emailed to her private account, often.
Her lack of respect for classified information is stunning. The hubris of it all, wow.
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)They seemed to have found out or figured out how a bunch of this happened, what the network structure was, who was involved (all names close to Clinton that Grassley's been after), etc.
When I last checked, the FBI is a pretty busy outfit. You would think, after looking at this for five months, if there was nothing to it, they'd just pack up and go after some other criminals. But the unofficial reports are that it's investigation has recovered deleted emails and expanded to look at the Clinton Foundation. Whatever, there must be something there that's still concerning them as they've got through most of the emails (except maybe the deleted ones) and there's no sign of a departure.
Jarqui
(10,126 posts)It's a reasonable response though I continue to lean that something is up.
madville
(7,410 posts)her political future is in the hands of the DOJ/Administration. If they don't want her to be the nominee they will issue an indictment before Super Tuesday in March. If she wins the primary, absolutely no way they prosecute any potential wrongdoing even if that's what the FBI recommends.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)successfully destroying her candidacy.
Don't need an actual indictment for this to hurt. It's a presidential campaign, not a courtroom.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)This may actually drag out that long.
If history is a guide, that's how this could play out. GOOGLE: John Deutch